Somehow this is the only country on earth where this seems to happen. When talking about shootings involving guns, okay, fine, the US is certainly an outlier there, but every country has cars and police.

This is murder.

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    I still blame the lady.

    In a mellow tone: “You are beeing accused of shoplifting”. “ok cya”. Hits the pedal…

    i guess we can settle on having better training is always better.

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      Remind me to shoot you in the knees next time you speed 5kmh…

      This is about appropriate force. If you can’t deescalate a situation then you have no business carrying a badge and a gun.

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          Exactly my point! What is wrong with these police officers that they ended up murdering a pregnant women over some petty shoplifting?

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              Good point. Resisting arrest should not lead to your Death unless you’re a terrorist or serial killer or any other imminent threat to society.

              Police officers should NOT be standing in front of a car with a drawn gun to talk to a shoplifting suspect, that is insanity.

              It is what police officers with no training and a culture of “respect mah athoritay!” do and it gets people needlessly killed.

              In this case it killed a pregnant woman. You really wanna die on that hill?

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                Resisting arrest should not lead to your Death

                They gotta stop you somehow. The cops are supposed to bring the situation under control. Because whoelse will? The more bullshit you pull, the easier it is for the cops to run out of options.

                In this case it killed a pregnant woman.

                She is primarily responsible for her own death and the death of her baby.

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                  they gotta stop you somehow

                  No they don’t. Not at all costs. If you’re an active terrorist shooting around then sure, stop at all cost, even risking the lives of innocent civilians.

                  But this is a barely suspect of shoplifting. Death should never occur trying to stop a person like that. Worst case, you let her go. Yes. You let her go, as it’s not worth it.

                  This reminds me of that time where us police started shooting in a busy street, managed to miss all the bad guys but hit various innocent civilians.

                  You don’t start shooting unless there is no other option and for too many US police officers, shooting is the first option, like here.

                  The police officers could both have been standing next to the car, out of harms way. Had the woman left, then they could have followed her, at distance or close by if safely possible. Nobody had to die.

                  The police officer standing in front of the car cannot say that she endangered him, as he endangered himself by deciding to stand in front of the car.

                  Somehow the entire basic point is being missed that there CANNOT be a reason that a simple shoplifting (if that happened at all) leads to a person being shot dead. Police is responsible for safety of all and they should have deescalated the situation but instead they escalated it at every turn. Again this shows that US police officers have a huge lack of training.