Some people say that it is unethical to have children or imply, rather than personal choice, that it is the morally correct choice. For example: the image in this post which describes having children as great hubris.
If the personal choice is only based on finances, I wouldn’t really call it antinatalism. Antinatalism is based on resentment.
I think the fascist angle comes from its proximity to ecofascism ie “we should kill people because humans are the problem”. I don’t see antinatalism as necessarily fascist, but it’s absolutely inspired by the same desperate misanthropic hopelessness that hangs over heads like poisonous clouds. Just a useless philosophy that cannot make the world any better and imagines doing so as impossible.
I can see there’s an element of hubris or selfishness behind the idea of having children (I do wish it wasn’t so popular!), but even the moral stuff is still a stretch to project ones feelings onto another’s situation - although I can see that happens all the time, and I find it disgusting (ex-Christian, anything about projected beliefs sets me off…)
I’ve absolutely had that desperate misanthropic helplessness - wonderful words!! I’m working on dismantling the thinking that leads to poison clouds having raised it’s all my own creation (oops!), so thank you, you’ve helped me process my recent past quite rapidly!
Some people say that it is unethical to have children or imply, rather than personal choice, that it is the morally correct choice. For example: the image in this post which describes having children as great hubris.
If the personal choice is only based on finances, I wouldn’t really call it antinatalism. Antinatalism is based on resentment.
I think the fascist angle comes from its proximity to ecofascism ie “we should kill people because humans are the problem”. I don’t see antinatalism as necessarily fascist, but it’s absolutely inspired by the same desperate misanthropic hopelessness that hangs over heads like poisonous clouds. Just a useless philosophy that cannot make the world any better and imagines doing so as impossible.
Thesis this is teasing it out for me.
I can see there’s an element of hubris or selfishness behind the idea of having children (I do wish it wasn’t so popular!), but even the moral stuff is still a stretch to project ones feelings onto another’s situation - although I can see that happens all the time, and I find it disgusting (ex-Christian, anything about projected beliefs sets me off…)
I’ve absolutely had that desperate misanthropic helplessness - wonderful words!! I’m working on dismantling the thinking that leads to poison clouds having raised it’s all my own creation (oops!), so thank you, you’ve helped me process my recent past quite rapidly!