This was on a post asking “Is veganism apolitical?” or something like that, I believe. This is an older picture someone else sent me.

Here is a follow-up comment she made after someone asked her if she is vegan:

  • insurgentrat [she/her, it/its]@hexbear.net
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    10 days ago

    cooks beans, racistly

    God this shit pisses me off on so many levels.

    First it’s peformative tweetbrained nonsense.

    Secondly it’s bizarrely infantilising of innumerable peoples, as if white people are the only ones who ever looked at killing non human animals and went “idk about that”. Not like there’s thousands of years of recorded theological debate and shit from all around the world, with Europeans being somewhat late to the game here.

    Thirdly she’s a spineless wishywashy do nothing about it.

    And fourth actually fuck you but international solidarity and a recognition that peoples’ ways of life is being destroyed and will be destroyed in significant part due to the way the land is ravaged for animal ag is actually a significant motivator in going vegan. Like people’s homes are going under fucking water because of climate change, people are forced into ever smaller and more degraded sections of the amazon to meet the rapacious desire for beef, huge swaths of land are claimed for farming unnecessarily, climate refugees grow in number and will continue to do so cut from their roots and vilified by the people who value McCheeseburgers over them.

    There are racist vegans for sure, but the movement is significantly driven by solidarity and compassion and listening to others.

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      it’s bizarrely infantilising of innumerable peoples, as if white people are the only ones who ever looked at killing non human animals and went “idk about that”. Not like there’s thousands of years of recorded theological debate and shit from all around the world, with Europeans being somewhat late to the game here.

      Until reading this, I had a liberal take on culture and eating animal products. I felt I should not criticize eating meat in indigenous practices because they have meaning I don’t know the depth of. But if many people of just about all cultures have been criticizing it yeah I can see how spiritual practices involving meat can and must shift because the world is dying. It’s absolutely racist to claim people are helplessly stuck in meat eating ways and can’t change because of their culture. It’s more appropriate to say individual people are addicted to meat.

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        21 hours ago

        It’s my impression that a lot of attempts to be sensitive to people who live with a legacy of oppression, genocide, and marginalisation wrap right round to noble savage stuff.

        Culture isn’t frozen in amber, it is constantly remade through practice. It is completely fair to criticise cruel practices and urge change. At the same time there is a need to be fair and sensitive, if you’re spending effort critiquing like idk hunting by aboriginal Aussies than the fucking roo massacres or horror of animal ag someone might be justified in being like “Why are you picking on me and not your neighbour having a bbq?”.

    • Sʏʟᴇɴᴄᴇ@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 days ago

      This is why consequentialism as a moral philosophy needs more attention in the modern age. Why you do a good act is so, so much less important than the act itself.