The leader of North Korea is the son of the previous leader. And the people are very poor. Overall they are behaving more like a kingdom than a democratic country.
We have Dynasties that pass wealth and power throughout generations in the west too. Do you think in f.ex Europe we pick our own leaders? We only get to select from the choices they gives us and those choices aren’t gonna be random workers who earned their positions through truly democratic process, in my dreams maybe.
I live in EU. When I go to get some groceries in a store the voice in the speaker phones tells me that my country can’t feed thousands of families, they been telling this every year during holiday seasons, especially, while I look at rich people build stupid shit and ride in luxury cars. Do you have any idea how much it hurts living in this Dystopia? I can hardly keep my shit together.
Just to add to this: in the West we have hundreds of legit royal/aristocratic familial dynasties, all colluding with each other to maintain their wealth and status in society. Not to mention the corporate dynasties.
Compare that to a singular Mount Paektu bloodline that isn’t even linear (Kim Jong Nam got fucking got for associating with the CIA) and there are more than a few relatives/members of the Mount Paektu family that are either anonymous or have left the country.
Oh god I was just reading the Wikipedia article on Kim Jong Nam. Are there any good sources on it? I refuse to believe he was assassinated in that loony toons-ass way and no one else was exposed to the VX, not even the two women who splashed it on him, especially since they “didn’t know”
Unfortunately no. But him getting assassinated would benefit DPR Korea since he was a real life caricature of what mass media presents KJU to be. Its hard to gleam a motive from any antagonistic forces who would all want a line on a man close to the paektu family (though KJN, like most northern expats, was never actually informed on the day to day operations since he spent most of his time in Macau gambling his family’s wealth away).
I’d like to believe KJU signed off on having him killed and wanted to do it in a bizarre way to be more clandestine or whatever.
It’s not that I don’t believe he was assassinated, I really wouldn’t know either way. But Wikipedia claims that VX (which is fatal with skin exposure in the tens of milligrams range!) was used, split into two components, one of which was soaked into a handkerchief that one assassin held over his head and the other was “splashed” on him by a second assassin. Neither woman was convicted of murder and it was accepted by the courts that they thought it was a “prank”. He was supposedly immediately supplied with first aid including having a “resuscitation device” strapped to his face (y’know, where the VX supposedly was?)
Yet in all of this apparently no one other than Kim was exposed. Not the woman holding a handkerchief soaked in compound A while compound B was splashed on it. Not any of the medics treating him. No bystanders. In a busy airport. Absolutely unbelievable.
The leader of North Korea is the son of the previous leader
how much political authority does he actually have and how much is symbolic and resulting from him being the son of the son of the literal unifier George Washington type hero figure? How much political authority does the King of England have? Oh, actually the King of England could technically do whatever the fuck he wants, politically, the laws are on the books. It’s fine though, he just sits in lavish luxury supported by the British state and definitely doesn’t influence politics through any means whatsoever, not like those DASTARDLY asiatics
just a cursory glance at the DPRK legislature page on wikipedia shows more ideological diversity than any western legislature, they have a whole squadron of fucking social democrat capitalist shitheads, the West wouldn’t even allow a single Bernie Sanders as president and has been shitting its bricks over a SocDem being mayor of NY
Oh wait, does North Korea have a parliamentary system? In that case I can understand keeping someone from the Kim family as a ceremonial President. Wikipedia says they have a Premier, who is the Head of Government. Is that like their Prime Minister?
I think the aggression is warranted considering their original comment was under a post congratulating the DPRK’s womens soccer team. The tone of which was smug and accusatory.
The international dehumanization of DPR Korea has been one of the most severe, nearly incomparable to any other nation today.
But I’ll stop, since I’m sure they got the message.
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The leader of North Korea is the son of the previous leader. And the people are very poor. Overall they are behaving more like a kingdom than a democratic country.
Also sorry but this is the shit liberals IRL around me say with zero shame or excuse and I have to be civil to them or else they’ll ostracize me.
No, they were asking sincere questions and took new information into consideration. You shouldn’t just be heaping the sins of the western world in general on them if you are hoping to communicate something other than your own superiority.
They were not asking sincere questions and certainly did not start off with one, they came fully formed with a anti-DPRK liberal position and had to backtrack on it because it wasn’t based on anything material other than their own assertions.
When they say things like “Don’t they have people dying in famines?” strikes me with the same feeling as “doesn’t hamas hate gay people?” It’s the things you say when you are blindly repeating what you’ve heard and expecting others to pick up the slack for you.
This site will always be aggressive to uneducated liberals who make shitty remarks on posts like these, this will never change.
There’s really not enough in their original comment to assign it any sort of tone especially seeing as english is apparently not their first language. After that initial comment they have been engaging in good faith, conceding when they’re wrong, and doing their own research when prompted.
Liberal or not we could all stand to follow their lead there.
The second head of state of Cuba was Raúl Castro, the brother of Fidel Castro. The Cuban people are very poor. Overall they are behaving more like a Kingdom than a democratic country.
Isn’t the poverty in Cuba because the US won’t let other countries trade with Cuba? And they have still done a lot of great things, like in medicine and disaster management.
![[CW: Transphobia] Congrats to North Korea for winning the U-17 Woman's World Cup!](https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/e0f95f39-e410-42a1-8130-454ce954a438.png){kind=link}
Why do you think its an inside joke? Do you think the DPRK should not be supported?
The leader of North Korea is the son of the previous leader. And the people are very poor. Overall they are behaving more like a kingdom than a democratic country.
We have Dynasties that pass wealth and power throughout generations in the west too. Do you think in f.ex Europe we pick our own leaders? We only get to select from the choices they gives us and those choices aren’t gonna be random workers who earned their positions through truly democratic process, in my dreams maybe.
I live in EU. When I go to get some groceries in a store the voice in the speaker phones tells me that my country can’t feed thousands of families, they been telling this every year during holiday seasons, especially, while I look at rich people build stupid shit and ride in luxury cars. Do you have any idea how much it hurts living in this Dystopia? I can hardly keep my shit together.
Just to add to this: in the West we have hundreds of legit royal/aristocratic familial dynasties, all colluding with each other to maintain their wealth and status in society. Not to mention the corporate dynasties.
Compare that to a singular Mount Paektu bloodline that isn’t even linear (Kim Jong Nam got fucking got for associating with the CIA) and there are more than a few relatives/members of the Mount Paektu family that are either anonymous or have left the country.
Oh god I was just reading the Wikipedia article on Kim Jong Nam. Are there any good sources on it? I refuse to believe he was assassinated in that loony toons-ass way and no one else was exposed to the VX, not even the two women who splashed it on him, especially since they “didn’t know”
Unfortunately no. But him getting assassinated would benefit DPR Korea since he was a real life caricature of what mass media presents KJU to be. Its hard to gleam a motive from any antagonistic forces who would all want a line on a man close to the paektu family (though KJN, like most northern expats, was never actually informed on the day to day operations since he spent most of his time in Macau gambling his family’s wealth away).
I’d like to believe KJU signed off on having him killed and wanted to do it in a bizarre way to be more clandestine or whatever.
It’s not that I don’t believe he was assassinated, I really wouldn’t know either way. But Wikipedia claims that VX (which is fatal with skin exposure in the tens of milligrams range!) was used, split into two components, one of which was soaked into a handkerchief that one assassin held over his head and the other was “splashed” on him by a second assassin. Neither woman was convicted of murder and it was accepted by the courts that they thought it was a “prank”. He was supposedly immediately supplied with first aid including having a “resuscitation device” strapped to his face (y’know, where the VX supposedly was?)
Yet in all of this apparently no one other than Kim was exposed. Not the woman holding a handkerchief soaked in compound A while compound B was splashed on it. Not any of the medics treating him. No bystanders. In a busy airport. Absolutely unbelievable.
That’s true for every country on earth other than China or some European countries. Why do you think it’s the case in North Korea?
how much political authority does he actually have and how much is symbolic and resulting from him being the son of the son of the literal unifier George Washington type hero figure? How much political authority does the King of England have? Oh, actually the King of England could technically do whatever the fuck he wants, politically, the laws are on the books. It’s fine though, he just sits in lavish luxury supported by the British state and definitely doesn’t influence politics through any means whatsoever, not like those DASTARDLY asiatics
just a cursory glance at the DPRK legislature page on wikipedia shows more ideological diversity than any western legislature, they have a whole squadron of fucking social democrat capitalist shitheads, the West wouldn’t even allow a single Bernie Sanders as president and has been shitting its bricks over a SocDem being mayor of NY
Oh wait, does North Korea have a parliamentary system? In that case I can understand keeping someone from the Kim family as a ceremonial President. Wikipedia says they have a Premier, who is the Head of Government. Is that like their Prime Minister?
https://kfausa.org/dprk-constitution/
You could also read it directly from Koreans themselves, but umm, I guess not.
Chill out, they are clearly just trying to understand. This sniping is totally counterproductive and anti-social.
I think the aggression is warranted considering their original comment was under a post congratulating the DPRK’s womens soccer team. The tone of which was smug and accusatory.
The international dehumanization of DPR Korea has been one of the most severe, nearly incomparable to any other nation today.
But I’ll stop, since I’m sure they got the message.
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Also sorry but this is the shit liberals IRL around me say with zero shame or excuse and I have to be civil to them or else they’ll ostracize me.
No, they were asking sincere questions and took new information into consideration. You shouldn’t just be heaping the sins of the western world in general on them if you are hoping to communicate something other than your own superiority.
They were not asking sincere questions and certainly did not start off with one, they came fully formed with a anti-DPRK liberal position and had to backtrack on it because it wasn’t based on anything material other than their own assertions.
When they say things like “Don’t they have people dying in famines?” strikes me with the same feeling as “doesn’t hamas hate gay people?” It’s the things you say when you are blindly repeating what you’ve heard and expecting others to pick up the slack for you.
This site will always be aggressive to uneducated liberals who make shitty remarks on posts like these, this will never change.
There’s really not enough in their original comment to assign it any sort of tone especially seeing as english is apparently not their first language. After that initial comment they have been engaging in good faith, conceding when they’re wrong, and doing their own research when prompted.
Liberal or not we could all stand to follow their lead there.
The second head of state of Cuba was Raúl Castro, the brother of Fidel Castro. The Cuban people are very poor. Overall they are behaving more like a Kingdom than a democratic country.
Isn’t the poverty in Cuba because the US won’t let other countries trade with Cuba? And they have still done a lot of great things, like in medicine and disaster management.
They also do this to the DPRK
Yes, I just read about the UN resolution in another comment.