I think I could chill with Marx¹, he was a shockingly decent guy for the time. Engels was a piece of fucking shit and I’m not reading anything else he wrote.
¹teaboo capitalism-loving steam engine fetishist that he was
Engels’ contributions to Marxist theory are critical works, such as Anti-Dühring and On the Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State, and neither him nor Marx by any means loved capitalism. He was crucial to the development of dialectical materialism and scientific socialism, and was Marx’s biggest sponsor and comrade.
Kinda, at least compared to feudalism, though he also hated it and wished it abolished. Capitalism’s advent was both progressive, and resulted in incredible immiseration for the new proletariat as compared to their earlier yeomanry and serfdom.
Dunno why you have to phrase it in a sexual manner. Engels sponsored a lot of Marx’s work, and was a valuable comrade when writing theory together. Engels is one of Marxism’s most important theorists, and by no means was simply regurgitating Marx; he was the one Marx bounced ideas off of and they together grew to develop Marxism.
Dunno why you have to phrase it in a sexual manner
Interpreting “sugar daddy” in a sexual manner says more about you than the usage of the word does about me. (As does remarking on it at all: I don’t care whether or not Marx and Engels were in a sexual relationship… do you?)
“Sugar Daddy” implies Marx gave Engels sexual favors in exchange for cash or other goods, housing, etc. That’s the meaning of the “Sugar” part of the phrase “Sugar Daddy.” You made it sexual, not me. No, I would not have had any issue with them being gay, except for that being cheating in presumably monogamous relationships. I myself am pan, so I don’t know what you’re doing here.
The “Sugar” part still refers to the connotations of sexual favors, that’s the assumption with such terms. I get that it was a joke, I just don’t like the way sexual relationships are used in a negative manner when describing people, especially if it isn’t even true, like calling Putin and Trump gay for each other.
I think I could chill with Marx¹, he was a shockingly decent guy for the time. Engels was a piece of fucking shit and I’m not reading anything else he wrote.
¹teaboo capitalism-loving steam engine fetishist that he was
Engels’ contributions to Marxist theory are critical works, such as Anti-Dühring and On the Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State, and neither him nor Marx by any means loved capitalism. He was crucial to the development of dialectical materialism and scientific socialism, and was Marx’s biggest sponsor and comrade.
Then I suppose I will never fully explore Marxist theory. How sad.
Guess not. I agree, it is sad.
Its not Engels that is a capitalism lover (in the eabove comment) its Marx.
Kinda, at least compared to feudalism, though he also hated it and wished it abolished. Capitalism’s advent was both progressive, and resulted in incredible immiseration for the new proletariat as compared to their earlier yeomanry and serfdom.
I just wanted to point out that Cassandra said that Marx was a capitalism lover, not Engels as you replied.
Yep, gotcha. I see now.
Also, Marx may have fucked his wife.
Big if true.
True dat. AFAIK, Engels mostly regurgitated Marx anyway. So nothing much lost in terms of theory.
Engels co-developed dialectical materialism and scientific socialism, Marx could not have done what he did without his best friend and comrade.
I’m sure Marx’ sugar daddy was very important for him.
Dunno why you have to phrase it in a sexual manner. Engels sponsored a lot of Marx’s work, and was a valuable comrade when writing theory together. Engels is one of Marxism’s most important theorists, and by no means was simply regurgitating Marx; he was the one Marx bounced ideas off of and they together grew to develop Marxism.
Interpreting “sugar daddy” in a sexual manner says more about you than the usage of the word does about me. (As does remarking on it at all: I don’t care whether or not Marx and Engels were in a sexual relationship… do you?)
“Sugar Daddy” implies Marx gave Engels sexual favors in exchange for cash or other goods, housing, etc. That’s the meaning of the “Sugar” part of the phrase “Sugar Daddy.” You made it sexual, not me. No, I would not have had any issue with them being gay, except for that being cheating in presumably monogamous relationships. I myself am pan, so I don’t know what you’re doing here.
(Yes, I know Marx was older than Engels - it was a joke, ffs)
The “Sugar” part still refers to the connotations of sexual favors, that’s the assumption with such terms. I get that it was a joke, I just don’t like the way sexual relationships are used in a negative manner when describing people, especially if it isn’t even true, like calling Putin and Trump gay for each other.
Marx was born in 1818. Engels was born in 1820.