• sewer_rat_420 [he/him, any]@hexbear.net
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    25 days ago

    Yeah IDK how people died from it, I could see the drug being a contributing factor maybe.

    I’ve only heard about the mixture from some posts my partner showed me on threads, which can be a place of fear mongering so I would take it with a grain of salt.

    Still, I would recommend anybody just stick to the closest to whole plant preparations of both Kava and Kratom. With Kava, a lot of companies sell ‘extracts’ to help you sleep but the extracts are just usually the ethanol soluble portions of the plant, highly concentrated. This is why there is a fear of liver damage from using Kava, which should hypothetically be a much lower risk if you are using traditional preparation methods.

    With Kratom, it’s a pain but it’s worth it to just get your own cheap capsule filler if you are a regular user, what I did way back in the day because I hated eating the plain powder.

    • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]@hexbear.net
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      25 days ago

      Having tried a lot of the stuff out there I’d agree. Kratom powder is really the least problematic and honestly best for any sort of longer term abuse. It may be habit forming but it’s definitely way less bad than the modified extracts (and honestly a lot of extract products were bad enough)

    • oscardejarjayes [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      23 days ago

      I could see the drug being a contributing factor maybe

      Yeah, there’s been a few cases where they were on another respiratory depressant and it was Kratom that likely just pushed it over the edge.

      Quite a lot of things can be contributing factors to drug overdoses though, things like OTC cough syrup, magnesium, and even certain kinds grapefruit juice can increase the risk of stopping you from breathing without themselves affecting your breathing. If you do drugs you make sure to look at the interaction tables, and if relevant test.