BYD's new Yangwang U9 Xtreme, a limited-edition track hypercar, debuted with a 2,220-kW four-motor system, a {{496.22 km/h}} top speed, and a new Nürburgring time of 6:59.157.
This is even in Denmark, a country known for notoriously high car prices.
I guess manual means it’s ICE, and it probably has a lot of charm, and goes VROOM 😋 ,
So maybe more fun, but from a more pragmatic viewpoint, ICE is yesterdays news.
For an ICE 300hp is impressive, for an EV not so much.
One of the car memories that lives rent free in my head was having a ton of fun whipping a cheap rental on some winding back roads in Croatia and getting absolutely dusted by the old shitbox in front of us. We finally caught up to the dude at a traffic light and said “hey, we tried, but it’s only 100hp” and he said “that is more than enough, you just don’t know how to drive”.
Cool story 😎 And you are 100% correct in that nothing like that crossed my mind from reading that post.
And that’s despite living in Denmark a country with one of the most significant mountains in the world.
Sky mountain, which is the place the Norse Gods prefer as their stepping stone to the Rainbow bridge that leads to Asgard.
The hill MOUNTAIN has the impressive height of ALMOST 150 meters!! Only 20 meters short of the highest point in Denmark.
I’ll take charging the 400-500 km of that distance from home for free from my solar panels any day.
The longest distance we drive semi regularly is about 500 km.
In an ICE car that’s about 67 liter of gasoline for the round trip, which is now almost €2 per liter here. That’s €134 in gasoline per trip.
In the EV it’s 18kWh/100km making it 180 kWh total for the round trip, of which we start precharged with 77 kWh each way, only needing to charge 26 kWh.
Even with a very healthy safety margin charging 50 kWh, (10 minutes each way) We only spend about €20 on charging.
The time it takes to charge matches the time it takes to step aside to pee, and is less time than getting a cup of coffee or a snack for the trip.
I can spend €100 on snacks on the trip, and still come out ahead economically. 😋
And the charging has not extended the time it takes significantly if at all.
I live in Australia, some of my trips are 1200+ km in a day, add in charging time and it’s simply not realistic for me to use an EV. My longest trip is 2,200km in one go which already takes 25-26 hours including stops.
The lower cost is great but wouldn’t make up for needing to pay for an additional overnight stay. There’s also zero infrastructure for EVs in remote locations.
EVs aren’t quite there for everyone’s use cases. I would have one for around town… if they weren’t privacy nightmares.
That’s a very special case where EV is not suitable. The 2200 km in 26 hours you mention is very far from legal driving in most countries. Here you need resting periods, and AFAIK you can’t legally drive more than 11 hours per day as a professional, so that trip would take 2 days here anyway, unless it’s something you do for fun?
So here (EU) that trip would in fact be possible with an EV with little loss of time, because of the mandatory resting periods, but maybe in Australia there wouldn’t be the necessary infrastructure to charge on such long trips.
Even here in little old England my commute to the office and back is 150 miles. These “300 mile range” EVs rarely actually do 300 miles so I’d need to charge my car up at home every day. If I forget then I’m stuck trying to find a supercharger in rush hour, which sounds like a recipe for disaster.
I have a neighbor that commute 300+ km round trip every day no problem for years. Driving from home fully charged he can get to Copenhagen and back on the same charge at 130 km/h almost all the way on “Motorway”.
Even with the extra distance you require, it should be easily possible if your place of work has a charger reserved for you.
Even a normal 11 kWh home charger is more than enough to get you going home fully charged in an 8 hour workday of charging.
At the risk of being rude, that sounds somewhat obsolete by today’s standards, where you can have a 400hp+ EV for less than $30k.
https://www.bilbasen.dk/brugt/bil/polestar/2/performance-awd-5d/6690882
This is even in Denmark, a country known for notoriously high car prices.
I guess manual means it’s ICE, and it probably has a lot of charm, and goes VROOM 😋 ,
So maybe more fun, but from a more pragmatic viewpoint, ICE is yesterdays news.
For an ICE 300hp is impressive, for an EV not so much.
Nah, I think you’re missing their point.
One of the car memories that lives rent free in my head was having a ton of fun whipping a cheap rental on some winding back roads in Croatia and getting absolutely dusted by the old shitbox in front of us. We finally caught up to the dude at a traffic light and said “hey, we tried, but it’s only 100hp” and he said “that is more than enough, you just don’t know how to drive”.
Spot on.
Cool story 😎 And you are 100% correct in that nothing like that crossed my mind from reading that post.
And that’s despite living in Denmark a country with one of the most significant mountains in the world.
Sky mountain, which is the place the Norse Gods prefer as their stepping stone to the Rainbow bridge that leads to Asgard.
The
hillMOUNTAIN has the impressive height of ALMOST 150 meters!! Only 20 meters short of the highest point in Denmark.So cool!!
I’m not trying to be cool. I just don’t care about absurd bhp. ICE or EV it’s just an absurd arms race.
For an EV a 600km range with real world driving is impressive, for an ICE vehicle not so much.
I’ll take charging the 400-500 km of that distance from home for free from my solar panels any day.
The longest distance we drive semi regularly is about 500 km.
In an ICE car that’s about 67 liter of gasoline for the round trip, which is now almost €2 per liter here. That’s €134 in gasoline per trip.
In the EV it’s 18kWh/100km making it 180 kWh total for the round trip, of which we start precharged with 77 kWh each way, only needing to charge 26 kWh.
Even with a very healthy safety margin charging 50 kWh, (10 minutes each way) We only spend about €20 on charging.
The time it takes to charge matches the time it takes to step aside to pee, and is less time than getting a cup of coffee or a snack for the trip.
I can spend €100 on snacks on the trip, and still come out ahead economically. 😋
And the charging has not extended the time it takes significantly if at all.
I live in Australia, some of my trips are 1200+ km in a day, add in charging time and it’s simply not realistic for me to use an EV. My longest trip is 2,200km in one go which already takes 25-26 hours including stops.
The lower cost is great but wouldn’t make up for needing to pay for an additional overnight stay. There’s also zero infrastructure for EVs in remote locations.
EVs aren’t quite there for everyone’s use cases. I would have one for around town… if they weren’t privacy nightmares.
That’s a very special case where EV is not suitable. The 2200 km in 26 hours you mention is very far from legal driving in most countries. Here you need resting periods, and AFAIK you can’t legally drive more than 11 hours per day as a professional, so that trip would take 2 days here anyway, unless it’s something you do for fun?
So here (EU) that trip would in fact be possible with an EV with little loss of time, because of the mandatory resting periods, but maybe in Australia there wouldn’t be the necessary infrastructure to charge on such long trips.
Even here in little old England my commute to the office and back is 150 miles. These “300 mile range” EVs rarely actually do 300 miles so I’d need to charge my car up at home every day. If I forget then I’m stuck trying to find a supercharger in rush hour, which sounds like a recipe for disaster.
I have a neighbor that commute 300+ km round trip every day no problem for years. Driving from home fully charged he can get to Copenhagen and back on the same charge at 130 km/h almost all the way on “Motorway”.
Even with the extra distance you require, it should be easily possible if your place of work has a charger reserved for you.
Even a normal 11 kWh home charger is more than enough to get you going home fully charged in an 8 hour workday of charging.