• PatFusty@lemm.ee
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    TLDR

    Do you guys actually write this shit out or are you ctrl + v from some source? Every time i see hexbears they write up a whole journal article as a comment that most likely nobody is going to read.

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      …I said “Excerpt from Michael Parenti’s Blackshirts and Reds,” because it’s, uhh, an excerpt from Michael Parenti’s Blackshirts and Reds.

      I copied it from a pdf of the book I cited because I found it relevant. Really, if you want to fully understand how fascism and communism are different and not comparable, you should read the whole book. I know, I probably sound like a crazy person for suggesting that people read a whole entire book to better understand politics instead of going off vibes, but that’s just how I roll I guess.

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        Sorry i am dumb and cant read good. You see I grew up in the streets of Zacapa where a poor little brown child like myself cant get a fine white privileged education like yourself. You are going to have lower the IQ of this conversation for me so I can understand

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      Are you asking if she copied and pasted an excerpt from a book? Yes, of course she did. Lol

      Edit: If I took a video of myself retyping it or writing it by hand, would you read it then? I’ll do it.

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        Im actually a cracker… no wait im a fascist… or am I a conservative?? I dont know you hexbears call me everything i dont remember where we left off

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                I dont remember talking to you… are you the same person with multiple accounts?

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                  Hi, I’m not @boboblaw@hexbear.net, but it seems you’re having some difficulty understanding where you are right now. I understand object permeance and talking to multiple people may be confusing for some. What you are on right now is called a Public Internet Forum. This is a type of forum where anyone with an internet connection and a functioning web browser can participate in all manner of discussion. In this discussion in particular, I was making a joke about how dumb you are taking a intellectual posture on the internet while clearly having absolutely nothing of remote intellectual interest backing it. Now you might be saying “Now wait a minute here Mr. Chungus, but you aren’t the person I was talking to earlier!”

                  And you know what internet user? You’re right. With the magic of the internet, any number of internet users can communicate with you, not just one! You can tell when a different internet user is communicating with you by checking either their Profile Picture or their Username, which are distinct indicators of who you’re talking to

                  If you have any other questions about using the internet, feel free to ask them now

                  Thank you, and have a wonderful day

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                    I think you missed the rest of the signature with your location and phone number. We here on the internets are lucky to have someone as thoughtful and respectful as you to show us around.

                    XoXo

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      I think a part of good, honest discourse is recognizing and respecting the time of the person you are talking with.

      If you are going to respond with 11 paragraphs quoted from a book, you should preempt it by saying something to diffuse it. Something like, “oh man, this is super long but actually quite beneficial. I wrote a tldr though at the end in case you don’t have time to read the whole thing.”

      I use this site while I’m at work. I literally don’t have time to read all of that lol.

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        That’s why I put it behind a spoiler to avoid clogging up the thread.

        I put in the time of reading the book in the first place, then I remembered a relevant bit so I went back and looked through the book to try to find it, read through it again to make sure it was actually relevant, edited it because it was from a pdf and had wierd line breaks, and considered which parts were relevant to include and whether I should omit some of the examples. I cited that book not only because it expressed what I wanted to say, but also because it’s written in a modern style that’s easier to read than many socialist works.

        I guess I’m just used to an environment on Hexbear where people are more receptive towards reading relevant theory and some of us actually read not just posts and excerpts, but whole entire books. Maybe I should’ve just posted Pig Poop Balls instead.

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          I don’t doubt that you were doing it in good faith, but the execution was still in such a way that it is off-putting.

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              Say what you want, 11 paragraphs is objectively longer than what most people want to read on social media. 11 paragraphs is just annoying and unproductive.

              You can see I’m right because literally everyone who isn’t a hexbear is like wtf is this. It is bad communication.

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                  That would be accepting it as good communication. My point is to not do that, because it is not good communication. I agree with you though, I could have.

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            You don’t have to click the spoiler. It’s literally one line you can easily scroll past, but some people who have more time might find it interesting.

            Anyway it’s a response to a pretty low-effort, unoriginal meme, the whole “proportional time” thing cuts both ways. I’ve added more to making these comments a meaningful, intelligent dialogue than OP did.

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              I will respectfully disagree that throwing in 11 paragraphs of some text without explanation adds to a meaningful dialogue

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                  I get that the text might have some good and important meaning, but the format the meaning was delivered in spoils it.

                  Like, I would love it if someone gave me a million dollars. But do I want the million dollars in pennies? Not really lol

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                    You’re just complaining to complain at this point. Literally just scroll past if it’s such a problem. All I did was lead you to water, I’m not forcing you to drink.

                    You choosing to die on this hill just makes me think of this lol

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                    So what I’m getting is that you need to be sat down in front of a screen and have things explained to you in short, simple sentences, or else you panic and bolt.

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        On Hexbear we regularly bully each other into reading entire books when someone has a bad take. This is mild.

        11 paragraphs is like one single page, maybe two.

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              In this case, I’m just saying throwing 11 paragraphs of some random essay isn’t a good way to communicate. I’m all for education.

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                  Cool. I imagine I would agree with a lot of what it says. I haven’t been talking about the contents of the writing though. The only point I’m trying to make in this entire thing is that copying and pasting 11 paragraphs is bad communication.

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            It would be good for you too. I see less whining about having to read two pages in 5th grade classrooms.

            But in fact you don’t have to! No one is forcing you to engage.