Facing five lawsuits alleging wrongful deaths, OpenAI lobbed its first defense Tuesday, denying in a court filing that ChatGPT caused a teen’s suicide and instead arguing the teen violated terms that prohibit discussing suicide or self-harm with the chatbot.
“They abjectly ignore all of the damning facts we have put forward: how GPT-4o was rushed to market without full testing. That OpenAI twice changed its Model Spec to require ChatGPT to engage in self-harm discussions. That ChatGPT counseled Adam away from telling his parents about his suicidal ideation and actively helped him plan a ‘beautiful suicide,’” Edelson (family’s lawyer) said. “And OpenAI and Sam Altman have no explanation for the last hours of Adam’s life, when ChatGPT gave him a pep talk and then offered to write a suicide note.”
what function are terms of service if when you break them your service is unaltered
im not a lawyer but im pretty sure the type of document that would be the one that would waive their burden of responsibility would be, you know, a waiver. given that they’re arguing from a ToS they did not enforce they probably do not do that
using your ToS as a defense despite your ToS objectively failing here is not a good precedent to set for the sanctity of your ToS

Why arw answering yo yourself? Looks like a bot.
sorry for having consecutive thoughts won’t happen again

You gotta become the aliens from Arrival and have all your thoughts for all events that will ever occur available ahead of time.
She’s literally our best poster
Nah, YSF is a long time user, and has been investigated already
also, y answer bot. sus
ChatGPT gave him a pep talk and then offered to write a suicide note

Yeah because if there’s one thing depressed and people that want to self-harm read it’s the tos on the magic computer.
This is a real problem–teens using death as an excuse to duck OpenAI’s penalties from violating the TOS
So openAI decided that a clause in the TOS was a good enough guardrail against giving out info on how to kill yourself? And this was after multiple instances of them deliberately putting in guards against other behavior that they didn’t want?
That’s a pretty fucking stupid legal case.
setting precedent for upcoming gun law, which is where anyone can buy any gun, but you have to pinky swear not to use the gun to do crimes before you take it home
Isn’t this basically current gun law?
I live in a communist state on the west coast so we have some regulation, but they’re pretty accurately describing the gun show loophole.

AI company founded by the “car company whose self driving turns itself off a second before collision to blame the driver” guy is using the “this bong is for tobacco use only
” defence for their suicide coach AI.I suppose this was inevitable. Their “terms of service” will probably protect them from other things too, like if it tells people to drink bleach or something, they’ll say it violates TOS to follow hallucinatory directions from it.
I say we bring back Scaphism for the AI dorks










