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Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 4 days ago

Who wants war with Russia?

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Who wants war with Russia?

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Spectre@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 4 days ago
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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/9844277

  • RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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    You could argue that, if you were both woefully uninformed about who the aggressor is and laughably ignorant about how armed conflict works. You could.

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      I’m just the most decorated veteran in my family with 5 generations of service, but sure teach me how armed conflict works.

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        No problem! So when you win, you get to set the terms of the treaty. When you lose, you don’t. Surprised they didn’t go over this in war school, but whatev I’m happy to help

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          I fail to see what this has to do with Ukraine. You’re going to have to pull out your 2 dollar words. The war isn’t over until either one side is destroyed or they make peace. Until then there is no winner or loser.

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            No worries:

            -Russia Win

            -Ukraine Lose

            -Winner get write rules

            The war isn’t over until either one side is destroyed or they make peace.

            -Sentences spoken from a bunker in Berlin. You’re a decorated imperial veteran and you don’t understand the concept of “combat ineffective?” What were they even teaching you in war crimes school?

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              So you’re rooting for Russia. Got it. Have a good life.

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                Lol @ the spiteful sports team mentality. Yeah man i got two big RUSSIA foam fingers. Everyone is twelve now.

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      • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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        Sigh Allow me, @RiverRock@lemmy.ml.

        The US-backed Maidan coup and US & Ukraine-supported fascist paramilitary attacks on eastern & southern Ukraine:

        • Reuters, 2014: Leaked audio reveals embarrassing U.S. exchange on Ukraine, EU
        • Leaked recording between Nuland and Pyatt: audio | transcript
        • Counterpunch, 2014: US Imperialism and the Ukraine Coup
        • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
        • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
        • Consortium News, 2015: The Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
        • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
        • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
        • WaPo, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
        • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
        • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
        • openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
        • Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
        • Jacobin, 2022: A US-Backed, Far Right–Led Revolution in Ukraine Helped Bring Us to the Brink of War
        • Consortium News, 2023: The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine Former Israeli Prime Minister Bennett’s recent comments about getting his mediation efforts squashed in the early days of the war adds more to the growing pile of evidence that Western powers are intent on regime change in Russia.
        • Internationalist 360°, 2022–2024: History of Fascism in Ukraine: Part I, Part II, Part III, Part IV
        • NYT, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide

         
        NATO expansion:

        • George Washington Univ., 2017: NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard Declassified documents show security assurances against NATO expansion to Soviet leaders from Baker, Bush, Genscher, Kohl, Gates, Mitterrand, Thatcher, Hurd, Major, and Woerner
        • Orinoco Tribune, 2022: Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
        • Al Mayadeen, 2023: Zelensky admits he never intended to implement Minsk agreements
        • Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: The War in Ukraine Was Provoked—and Why That Matters to Achieve Peace
        • Jeffrey Sachs, 2023: NATO Chief Admits NATO Expansion Was Key to Russian Invasion of Ukraine

         
        NATO in general:

        • The Intercept, 2021: Meet NATO, the Dangerous “Defensive” Alliance Trying to Run the World
        • CounterPunch, 2022: NATO is Not a Defensive Alliance
        • Noam Chomsky, 2023: NATO “most violent, aggressive alliance in the world”
        • Thomas Fazi, 2024: NATO: 75 years of war, unprovoked aggressions and state-sponsored terrorism
        • Gabriel Rockhill, 2020: The U.S. Did Not Defeat Fascism in WWII, It Discretely Internationalized It
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        • RiverRock@lemmy.ml
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          He’ll yeah borther semper pie

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              It’s an old leftbook meme making fun of guys like you but don’t let that get in the way of your corny qanon-ass conspiracies about Russian spies👍

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