Ukrainians are some of the bravest people I know.

To the extent that you can, do not use Telegram. Telegram is owned by a single person. This man is a fucking liar.

https://istories.media/en/news/2024/08/27/pavel-durov-has-visited-russia-more-than-50-times-since-his-exile-in-2014/

Telegram infrastructure is linked to the FSB.

https://www.occrp.org/en/investigation/telegram-the-fsb-and-the-man-in-the-middle

Signal is more secure and owned by a nonprofit. The founder of Signal is a professional cryptographer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie_Marlinspike

Signal delivers end-to-end encryption by default and collects almost no data.

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    Wake me up when Signal can actually share the location, esp. live location, and not just a static maps screenshot with a Google Maps URL.

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        In addition to finding friends, it’s nice to see your partner making progress home if they’re driving/walking in poor weather.

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          There’s a million apps out there which you can install to let you see your partner’s location if you really need realtime telemetry to help salve your anxiety - why can’t you use one of those, instead of introducing a huge privacy flaw into a totally unrelated messaging service?

          Seriously this is about a messaging app being aligned to the FSB, and you’re arguing that letting it know your partner’s location while they’re particularly vulnerable is somehow a desirable feature??

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            No, I’m not talking about Telegram, just location sharing as a general feature. And if you already have a chat app you share your secrets on, why wouldn’t you also trust it with your location. Sounds better than introducing yet another company’s app to sniff on you.

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        When you have actual friends and you want tomeet up, just share the live location for 15 minutes, walk towards each other and you can get live updates to see where both are.

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          I’ll rely on the good old classic “hey lets go to X at Y time.” If X is large enough of an area then “we’ll meet up at Z (probably the snack bar knowing me.)”

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          No, all my friends are capable of finding each other without having to rely on an app to do it for them.

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        Have you seriously never though about how cool it would be to see where your friends are, live on a map?

        Its a realy useful feature when you want to meet up with someone and (at least) on person doesn’t know the area, or just organizing multiple people.

        Having that posibility available is a good thing. But signal decided that having that capability in an app means it could be misused so they actively decided against implementing it.

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          Have you seriously never though about how cool it would be to see where your friends are, live on a map?

          Emphatically no, and it’s terrifying that concept has apparently been normalized to the point it’s a desirable feature.

          But signal decided that having that capability in an app means it could be misused so they actively decided against implementing it.

          “Signal does thing to safeguard user privacy - that was bad, actually”

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      That requires paying Google maps for their services. I don’t know how their running costs and budget work.

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        Signal have tons of money from selling proprietary licenses of the Signal code base to Meta (used by WhatsApp and Facebook Messenger), Google, and Microsoft.

        All these partnerships were announced on Signal’s own blog, in case you don’t believe it.