how do you think the homelessness problem would be solved from a socialist/communist perspective?

  • suff@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    9 days ago

    You should include prison and work camp inmates in your disparity considerations. A non-economically forced, neglectable income in context of exponential aggregation should weigh a lot right there.

    Also, how capitalist was that Marshall Plan exactly?

    • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
      cake
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      9 days ago

      Sure, even when prisoners are included disparity in capitalist nations is far higher. It’s also not like western Germany actually de-Nazified either, they were protected, entrenched, and in many cases evacuated in Operation Paperclip.

      The Marshall Plan was extremely capitalist, in that it was a plan by a capitalist country to protect its profits.

      • suff@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        9 days ago

        Fascism is not an economic category. How was far broader politically suppressing, normalist, centralist GDR not been fascist anyway.

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
          cake
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          ·
          9 days ago

          Fascism is when a capitalist state resorts to more violent measures domestically to protect and entrench bourgeois rule. It cannot be separated from this context. The GDR suppressing Nazis and spies from the west while maintaining a socialist economy isn’t fascism, it’s socialism under constant siege and threat.

          • suff@piefed.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            7 days ago

            Only the rich may prosper in scenarios of radical regime changes. They simply translate money into power, security, education or mobility. Everyone else has to step down and to suffer more or less.

            Aside, fascism and capitalism aren’t congruent. There is more to fascism than just economic exploit and vice versa, etc. This is why I said you mixed up categories. Or maybe you are just overgeneralizing.

            Finally, transformations into Socialism have to happen globally (Marx said, I believe). That’s due to the “constant siege and thread” radicals get; why things turn out bad. You just can’t come up with completely new rules within a game of 280 more players.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
              cake
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              7 days ago

              First of all, you’re wrong about socialist states, they’ve historically been tremendously uplifting for their working classes. There simply isn’t the “translation of money into power” you’re posturing about, but instead a dramatic reorientation of society to where the working classes are on top. The rest of your comment is based on this essentially false premise.

              Fascism isn’t capitalism generally, fascism is capitalism in specific conditions. I am generalizing, but I’m not wrong here either.

              Communism must be global, but each country can become socialist before then, and actually must. The reason communism has to be global isn’t because of “siege,” or claiming society can’t change, it’s because in order to abolish class all production and distribution must be collectivized. Things don’t “turn out bad” in socialism historically.