The season’s ending was pretty disappointing (https://hexbear.net/comment/6743863)
I wonder if Manousos figures out that he can disable the plurb through outbursts and just keeps doing that to one plurb’d node and Carol would have to stop him. If this plot ends up happening I’d be disappointed because I just came up with it in 30 seconds.
Bravo Vince collecting the apple check to do whatever he wants with a sci-fi show that can basically magic any scenario he wants out of thin air and be patted on the back for it.
Also Carol is also just like Diabaté (French speaking dude with the air force one) and only stops when she realizes that she can’t treat the plurb as her own sexual fantasy and slaves.
Manousos is goated only because he envisions a world where the virus is cured. Diabaté is also great because he shares little to nothing about himself and gets to learn a ton from the plurb without them suspecting him (and is actually trying to find a solution to the windfall thing).
Carol shooting at manousos with a shotgun got me heated, white people will always ruin the day.
In any case, I don’t know what angle the show is going for. I guess people called it when it became a christian “lets save the world” type story by someone who only sees the world through ideology.
This is definitely far more a character drama than it is a sci-fi show, and viewers would do well to remember that Walt, Saul and Kim ended up the villains of Vince’s last two shows.
I’ve swung in different directions throughout the first season and I’ve settled on Carol being a deeply hypocritical and flawed person who has reached the correct conclusion. Manousos I’m fascinated to learn more about, this is not the first conflict we are going to see between them and I strongly reject the idea his character is some kind of libertarian.
I’m enjoying it and glad for the slower pace, can definitely see how this will go for another 3 seasons.
yeah, i was on the fence a lot about the joining. the hive mind made a really strong case and is very nonthreatening and helpful. and it makes sense that carol would be skeptical, because it killed her person and it has more or less been love bombing her which she is probably hyper vigilant about due to her experiences with the conversion camp, etc.
i have been leaning towards a nefarious or at least cold, calculating logic behind the signal for a while. like ever since it came out they wouldn’t pick fruit. that’s where it started to read like maybe the signal is an efficient kill program to wipe out highly intelligent life but leave biospheres more or less intact.
and that there’s maybe something to the biological imperative of the signal that only works if, on some deeper semi-concious level, the drones believe it is all for the greatest good of life and humanity. so when confronted with highly resistent individuals who they can feel are experiencing intense grief from the collective’s actions, it starts breaking down. not enough to free anyone, but enough that action halts.
but really, i am mostly sucked in due to the human dramas of these characters. lakshmi’s loathing of carol cracks me up. i hope we get more collisions between them.
I don’t think he’s gonna be a libertarian explicitly, but he’s a regular-ish petty bourgeois guy from a neoliberal country. He comes across as someone who has a strong moral core, a sense of duty to set the world straight in his eyes. In a way it’s admirable, but I think that the same way we’ve learned about how Carol fails to see past herself and learn why other survivors have a positive attitude about the joining, we could come to see that Manousos is just as close-minded in a way that renders him incapable of addressing the problem the right way. I think his insistence on still paying for stuff, which I think is intended to look more ridiculous than noble, telegraphs that he’s looking at the problem from the wrong perspective. They need to actually create a new world, not to simply go back to the pre-joining status quo.