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    “Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us.”

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    The actual answer is that North Korea has droves of hidden heavy artillery pointed at Seoul, one of the most densely populated places on earth, and would launch a bombardment that could kill a million people within a few minutes. The US would seek to disable these conventional weapons, but even a 1% failure rate would have horrible consequences.

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      Also, a boots on the ground invasion is a non starter.

      The mountainous terrain gives the home team a very strong position, and is one of the reasons China can’t just take Taiwan.

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      Bit of a silly idea developing your capital city that close to the border. Maybe they should have spent the last 70 years moving it?

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    Well the real answer is they have nuclear and the backing of another nuclear nation of over a billion people right next door

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      The fact that Seoul is within artillery range of North Korea is a far larger deterrent. China doesn’t care enough about NK to realistically use nukes in their defense

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        NK is china’s human/nuclear meat shield. plus it most likely would anger/piss of other asian countries nearby, which are frenemies with the us.

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    Not really, it’s the fact they’d fuck South Korea right up with arty within minutes of the first bomb going off + pretty sure China would then join NK

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      Why would it matter to the US if two countries fought each other to the death? The US doesn’t give a shit about South Korea and you know it

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        Of course the US gives a shit about South Korea. Their economy is a source of profit for US capitalists, and their geography is a source of US military power.

        The US defined South Korea’s borders, and the US Military Government in Korea had massive influence on their Constitution. The US added anti-communist provisions and extreme protections for business.

        For most practical purposes, South Korea is a US colony, and that is quite valuable.

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          Oh it’s valuable, but that’s extremely limited. South Korea is a simple cost-benefit analysis away from being abandoned. No, the reason the US doesn’t attack the DPRK, or any of the other nuclear powers directly, is because there has never been a war ended on MAD terms. It’s a complete unknown. Until the US is confident it can win a nuclear war, it won’t attack DPRK.

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    Also US SecDef admitted that if they went to war with China on their home turf, USA would lose badly.

    I mean Houthis did a number on their military with almost crap equpiment. China has Hypersonic missiles.

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      If the war in Ukraine has shown anything, it’s that higher numbers make up for a lot of other military deficiencies.

      And China not only has the numbers, but there’s presumably (we haven’t truly seen their military in action yet) way less deficiencies.

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    TrueAnon rule: Never, ever, give up your nukes. If you don’t have any, BUILD THEM. If you absolutely have to get rid of them, always keep ONE hid in reserve.

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        Their rule establishes a minimum that is necessary as a deterrent against imperialism. All more does is ratchet up the mutually-assured destruction slightly.

        If you have 10 already, the rule already covers your best course of action:

        Never, ever, give up your nukes.