heatwaves have always wiped out people haven’t they?

silly billy’s you want qatar or dubai for that!

why would that be fair? we don’t have a culture of having as many kids as possible

why punish us for something we didn’t do?

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That’s a lot of hypocrisy.

Definitely not, if you look at all the emissions charts they show all western countries are in a downward trend

It should be noted that China has done more with renewables and getting ICE vehicles off the road than any Western country

That’s not true Norway has a new car 98%+ EV sales rate

If you want to go by per capita then there’s loads that have done more:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_by_country

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The average person in India and China contributes substantially less to global emissions than the average Westerner

And rightly so! There is a lot more of them! They have a greater responsibility to reduce their emissions, just like we do compared to the coco’s islands

As said they’re doing great on the renewables front, they are also doing extremely bad on the co2 output front

defined by cultures, rules, regulations, notice which country is building a shitload of coal power plants?

https://aussie.zone/post/31299070/22308678

That is a decision they are making alone, no other country is doing this even though they could

You’re right, they have an even GREATER responsibility to the planet because they have so many people

It’s not my fault they had so many kids

there were no solar panels during the industrial revolution, i care about what’s being emitted today, what is the point of us reducing our emissions for china and india ro simply slurp up all the savings and then some?

people in the west worried about climate change while somehow ignoring the elephant in the room

because a country is made up of people and governments, who have different priorities and determine how best to respond to the climate change threat

it’s not really arbitrary, there is a very clear difference between the goals of the uk who shut all their coal power plants, germany who shut all their nuclear power plants and china who are meth head addicted to building as many coal power plants as they can despite being already no.1 in co2 emissions by a long shot

hey already responded about population here

https://aussie.zone/post/31299070/22304750

also india has a bigger population than china, you can compare co2 emissions

I wouldn’t call it undermining

Really? You don’t think building 500 coal power plants is undermining their clean energy goals? What would it take? 1000 coal power plants?

China adding coal capacity while scaling renewables is not evidence of hypocrisy. It’s evidence of a system trying to meet rising demand and stabilize a grid during rapid buildout. Both things can be true at once without one cancelling the other.

You don’t think other countries are also trying to meet rising demand and stabilise their grids? I think Germany might like a word and last I saw they weren’t building 500 new coal power plants

You think right wing people think? Brrruhhhhh…

I wouldn’t be talking shit about anyone, you just gave China (the current number 1 highest co2 emitter in the world by far) a free ride to pollute as much as possible while giving the USA shit for ‘regressing’ despite the fact the USA isn’t even doing half the co2 output China is

I guess the USA can regress another few million tons of co2 a day since it’s trying to meet rising demand and stabilise its grid

China is at least progressing nicely. While America regresses.

China is doing an amazing job on the renewables front no doubt

But they are also doing a fantastic job installing new coal power plants

A “resurgence” in construction of new coal-fired power plants in China is “undermining the country’s clean-energy progress”, says a new joint report by the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air (CREA) and Global Energy Monitor (GEM).

https://www.carbonbrief.org/chinas-construction-of-new-coal-power-plants-reached-10-year-high-in-2024/

https://www.carbonbrief.org/guest-post-just-15-countries-account-for-98-of-new-coal-power-development/

This is something they are choosing to do willingly, knowing they are the highest polluting country in the world by far

I also think the American regress is overstated

We are still seeing records broken on the regular: https://reneweconomy.com.au/grid-batteries-reach-stunning-new-peak-of-44-pct-of-evening-demand-in-worlds-fourth-biggest-economy/

A big part of this is because right wing people think renewables are economically bad and ideologically motivated, whereas in reality they are economically sound and the right wingers are the ones who are driven by ideology

You one of those what if’ers, eh?

The opposite, I live in reality, remember the planet doesn’t care about per capita, only actual output ;)

The planet can sustain 10x more people if they live like people in India vs Saudi Arabia or UAE…

According to this: https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/india-population/

The current Indian population is: 1,473,793,835

If India had the population of Saudi Arabia or the UAE we could all live like Saudi Arabia or the UAE

If China had the population of Saudi Arabia or the UAE we wouldn’t even be discussing climate change right now

right but whether they like it or not they are within the governance of Australia and thus are covered by the policy direction of the government of Australia, elected democratically by the people of Australia, to continue the culture and work ethic and the desires of the people within the country and the laws and trade deals we have with other countries

sorry you’re typing words but it’s super confusing

why are we declaring every australian is a separate country?

I don’t think he’s looking for advice, just looks like he made himself a bot?

Now when both countries trade, the Green country imports emissions and the Black ones are lowered

Yeah I’m saying it’s the opposite, the green country is outsourcing dirty work to the dirty country

I didn’t downvote you btw

Countries defined by arbitrary lines are just that

What

If it wasn’t per capita, we’d just be looking at population size graphs

I duno about that, largest countries in the world including EU:

https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/co2?time=1998..2024&country=CHN~USA~IND~European+Union+(28)~IDN~PAK~NGA&hideControls=false&Gas+or+Warming=CO₂&Accounting=Territorial&Fuel+or+Land+Use+Change=All+fossil+emissions&Count=Per+country

Some of chinas emissions are really other countries emissions, offshored for China to produce. China profits from it, of course.

Agreed, I’ve complained about Europes false green economy when it outsources manufacturing to China, including but not limited to

China was by far the largest supplier of solar panels, accounting for 98% of all imports

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/w/ddn-20251009-2

For a population as large as Europe it’s disappointing their aren’t more battery and solar panel manufacturers

this is why i hate per capita, Australia is listed 3rd and India last despite Australia’s co2 emissions going down and India’s increasing by over 5 Australia’s in the last 20 years

Planet doesn’t care about per capita