• Gladaed@feddit.org
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          17 days ago

          No. It is so there isn’t civil war. No duels, vigilantes and non state actors who profiteer of e.g. drugs, fossil resources etc.

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            16 days ago

            Exactly. If people wield that power they can use it to stop people profiteering off of drugs and fossil resources.

            But instead the rich wield that power so they use it to keep people starving on the streets because they don’t care about the well being of everyone, only that they remain wealthy so they’ll crack down on anyone who gets out of line.

    • riwo@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      17 days ago

      i do not believe stirner opererated on that definition.

      here is maletesta’s definition of the state, which i find far more useful for critiquing states.

      “Anarchists, including this writer, have used the word State, and still do, to mean the sum total of the political, legislative, judiciary, military and financial institutions through which the management of their own affairs, the control over their personal behavior, the responsibility for their personal safety, are taken away from the people and entrusted to others who, by usurpation or delegation, are vested with the powers to make the laws for everything and everybody, and to oblige the people to observe them, if need be, by the use of collective force.”

      i would go as far as to say that the entire anarchist critique of states builds on such a an understanding of states, and in turn becomes less coherent with a defintion like the one you are using.

      • menas@lemmy.wtf
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        17 days ago

        I don’t understand why those 2 definitions are excluding; if the last thing that enforce everything is the collective force, it means that everything has been built to be protected by the collective force. Legit violence is what is structuring everything else. It means that when justice have to choose between defending the police and the army (the wole institutions), it will defend it.