I figure they’re an expert on identifying antisemitic slogans, considering their history and also the whole Hamas verbatim saying the same slogan. Personally I’d question using a phrase that a terrorist organisation also uses, but Lemmy users don’t actually go outside, so shrug
I’ve pretty much only seen the phrase used by anti-Palestinian genocide supporters and only deemed anti-semetic by Israel and those who kowtow to Israel.
I would have thought you would also be against the genocide of Palestinians.
Germany has a Staatsräson that follows Israeli state narratives as an official form of redemption for their past and does not recognize the ongoing genocide against the Palestinians committed by the Zionist Entity, which is heavily supported by German weaponry. Germany, being accused of complicity in said genocide in front of the International Court of Justice. The chancellor calls the racist annihilation and colonization of Palestinian land „Drecksarbeit“ (dirty work).
The phrase is not illegal in Germany, as there is no law against it and courts have decided in favor of the legality. But it is misused for state repression against protests against genocide, by misusing anti-semitism as a pretense, just like you do. People that like to equal Judaism and Zionism, which in itself is anti-semitic, as it umbrellas every Jew under the atrocities, that are committed by the Zionist state of Israel.
The phrase implies freedom from colonization and for all people in the land of Palestine, which includes Jews, btw. Interpreting it as anti-semitic is a malicious use of the term, just like it’s misused to smother every form of dissent. Israel itself uses the phrase to advertise their imperialist greater Israel project, and therefore again create a narrative where they themselves do what they are accusing others of, as they are the ones actually doing the ethnic cleansing, not the would-be one by Hamas, that disingenuous people like you try to focus on.
Germany has no authority over the definition and use of the term anti-semitism and how would they, as they did the freaking Holocaust in the first place. But what they like to do is do everything that Israel wants in order to appear as the chastened and repentant nation they wish to portrait. You clinging to that kind of argumentation is very telling, same as banning for the use of the phrase. But you are a Zionist, and as Germany will oppress resistance, so will you by willfully mischaracterizing the ways in which the phrase is used as anti-Jewish, instead of anti-colonial or anti-racist or anti-Zionist.
On what planet is this antisemitic? That’s like saying MLK’s I have a dream speech is anti-white.
Germany, amongst many.
I figure they’re an expert on identifying antisemitic slogans, considering their history and also the whole Hamas verbatim saying the same slogan. Personally I’d question using a phrase that a terrorist organisation also uses, but Lemmy users don’t actually go outside, so shrug
either way if you use it here i’ll ban ya
I’ve pretty much only seen the phrase used by anti-Palestinian genocide supporters and only deemed anti-semetic by Israel and those who kowtow to Israel.
I would have thought you would also be against the genocide of Palestinians.
You figure wrong.
Germany has a Staatsräson that follows Israeli state narratives as an official form of redemption for their past and does not recognize the ongoing genocide against the Palestinians committed by the Zionist Entity, which is heavily supported by German weaponry. Germany, being accused of complicity in said genocide in front of the International Court of Justice. The chancellor calls the racist annihilation and colonization of Palestinian land „Drecksarbeit“ (dirty work).
The phrase is not illegal in Germany, as there is no law against it and courts have decided in favor of the legality. But it is misused for state repression against protests against genocide, by misusing anti-semitism as a pretense, just like you do. People that like to equal Judaism and Zionism, which in itself is anti-semitic, as it umbrellas every Jew under the atrocities, that are committed by the Zionist state of Israel.
The phrase implies freedom from colonization and for all people in the land of Palestine, which includes Jews, btw. Interpreting it as anti-semitic is a malicious use of the term, just like it’s misused to smother every form of dissent. Israel itself uses the phrase to advertise their imperialist greater Israel project, and therefore again create a narrative where they themselves do what they are accusing others of, as they are the ones actually doing the ethnic cleansing, not the would-be one by Hamas, that disingenuous people like you try to focus on.
Germany has no authority over the definition and use of the term anti-semitism and how would they, as they did the freaking Holocaust in the first place. But what they like to do is do everything that Israel wants in order to appear as the chastened and repentant nation they wish to portrait. You clinging to that kind of argumentation is very telling, same as banning for the use of the phrase. But you are a Zionist, and as Germany will oppress resistance, so will you by willfully mischaracterizing the ways in which the phrase is used as anti-Jewish, instead of anti-colonial or anti-racist or anti-Zionist.