• Libb@piefed.social
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    Easy, we will demand the USA only uses open source software to mine all the data we’ve given and are still giving them access to. And they better not refuse or we will, well, we will, you know, we will. Surely we will something. Maybe we could threaten them to hold our breathe collectively for as long as they don’t comply?

    “Europe must regain control over its software supply chain to safeguard freedom, security, and innovation”

    The same Europe, under the exact same leadership that (among way too many other compromises) agreed to purchase more US weapons instead of buying EU-made ones? Sure…

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      The same Europe, under the exact same leadership that (among way too many other compromises) agreed to purchase more US weapons instead of buying EU-made ones? Sure…

      The main one being Patriot air defense systems and missiles. The main issue with that is that Ukraine needed them yesterday. It is just impossible to replace those production capacity quickly. Although that is happening with SAMP/T and IRIS-T SLX. Some are also meet using less capable shorter range European systems like IRIS-T. For other systems, it is usually a similar story.

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        Sure. but that war is lost (and if we had less… leaders less willing to do what US want them to do, it should have been declared so at least two years ago). Now, the priority should not be in buying more US weapons (making us poorer, while making US that is not our ally anymore richer, retarding our own rearmament while Russia (and the USA) are happily working on their own). Our priority should be in making the EU an essential partner in making peace a reality bteween all parties (which also mean we should be willing to listen a little, just a little, to Russia). More weapons needs to be purchased (purchased within Europe) but now what’s needed is a somewhat smarter diplomacy. And a lot less va-t-en-guerre as we say in France: threatening Russia while we’re not able to fight won’t end well without the USA to back us. And the USA won’t back us like they made it clear, I think.

        That’s just my very uninformed opinion, obviously.

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          We should not let Russia invade its neighbours and annex their territories. Your support for the Russian invasion paves the way for American and Chinese imperialism, and for further wars in Europe. The only thing that can maintain a stable world order, is when invasions like this are met with fierce resistance, and we should spend as much as we can to help the Ukrainians defend themselves. Appeasement was a mistake last time around, and it’s still a mistake now. The Ukrainians have an effective fighting force, and it is in our interest to support them. Every Russian who dies or is maimed in the Ukraine, is a Russian who won’t be marching on the Baltics or Scandinavia or Poland in the coming years.

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            Your support for the Russian invasion paves the way for American and Chinese imperialism

            Ok, as it seem I’ve been identified my only option is to go back to dear Russia motherland. Congrats on spotting me, I suppose.