Cool, again not the point when it’s instance admins who are okay with the behavior. Especially if it helps get them traffic and users.
Right, and in this context that would become a defederated instance if they were found as admins to be specifically engaging in that behaviour themselves. If it’s just individuals on the instance acting on their own volition (and I have asked you if goat specifically uses alts to mass-downvote people multiple times across the fediverse - and you haven’t confirmed if he does that).
How is this relevant to him running the comm specifically designed to drive people to attack others. Even in this thread one user, who doesn’t seem to care about the Jordan Lund shit show, even uses the comm to distract from how world handled the situation that most already forgot or didn’t care about. Rimu himself frequenting the same comm and doing exactly the same attacks to others and other instances is why people have so many concerns about piefed. Other instance admins are doing the same
Frequenting what comm? Are you talking about Tankiejerk or MeanwhileInGrad? I’ve never seen Rimu comment there ever.
Right, and in this context that would become a defederated instance if they were found as admins to be specifically engaging in that behaviour themselves. If it’s just individuals on the instance acting on their own volition (and I have asked you if goat specifically uses alts to mass-downvote people multiple times across the fediverse - and you haven’t confirmed if he does that).
Because it’s irrelevant to the point if they are downvoting with multiple accounts when using comms to drive users to do it for them. You’re also ignoring the admins of the instance not doing anything for comms doing that exact behavior.
Meanwhileongrad, but at this point both are doing it.
Because it’s irrelevant to the point if they are downvoting with multiple accounts when using comms to drive users to do it for them. You’re also ignoring the admins of the instance not doing anything for comms doing that exact behavior.
Again, you would have to show some evidence that the actual instance owners are doing this or actively involved. Can I see a post that has been repeatedly hit by downvotes from goat alts, by the way?
And yes rimu frequents Meanwhileongrad
I’ve just tracked back through 2 months of rimus comments and not found a single comment from him on Meanwhileongrad.
Got it, only counts if admins actively encouraging and instead of not doing anything about the comm
Again: Can I see a post that has been repeatedly hit by downvotes from goat alts, by the way?
Or that doesn’t count because not within 2 months?
You claimed he “frequents” meanwhileongrad. A comment chain 5 months ago where the context is actually related to allegations against Piefed is hardly evidence of frequenting it. By your logic I am thus a frequent visitor of memes@lemmy.ml.
Again: Can I see a post that has been repeatedly hit by downvotes from goat alts, by the way?
I see again this is useless as you can’t see anything past piefed positives and repetitively ignore the point to focus on specific unrelated specifics such as as alt accounts downvoting rather than dedicating an entire comm towards hate.
You claimed he “frequents” meanwhileongrad. A comment chain 5 months ago where the context is actually related to allegations against Piefed is hardly evidence of frequenting it.
Because I’m not going to search his entire history when it’s one of his top comments, and the comment even reflects his entire philosophy
I see again this is useless as you can’t see anything past piefed positives and repetitively ignore the point to focus on specific unrelated specifics such as as alt accounts downvoting
You are alleging here that there is already a user, or bloc of users that organise downvote raids against particular users or communities or instances and that their home instances - or the fediverse more broadly in the form of defederating their home instance, does nothing.
You bought this up in reference, to function as opposition to my claim that an instance that engaged in deliberate vote brigading would find itself potentially defederated. So I am effectively asking for receipts for your allegation.
rather than dedicating an entire comm towards hate.
Are you arguing that MeanwhileOnGrad should be shut down by the sh.itjust.works mods?
Because I’m not going to search his entire history when it’s one of his top comments, and the comment even reflects his entire philosophy
So you made an assumption because that particular comment of his got upvoted a lot. He is not a frequent user of meanwhileongrad.
Are you arguing that MeanwhileOnGrad should be shut down by the sh.itjust.works mods?
Absolutely and now even goat is trying to argue their ignorance from the comm outside of this thread so I’m sure I’ll be getting lots of hate soon enough from others.
Again last I’m saying about this only bringing up as Goat is going to end up targeting me know, but sure ignore everything that has been brought up
Absolutely and now even goat is trying to argue their ignorance from the comm outside of this thread so I’m sure I’ll be getting lots of hate soon enough from others.
What sort of hate are you anticipating?
Again last I’m saying about this only bringing up as Goat is going to end up targeting me know, but sure ignore everything that has been brought up
I don’t feel like I’ve ignored anything at all in this chain.
Right, and in this context that would become a defederated instance if they were found as admins to be specifically engaging in that behaviour themselves. If it’s just individuals on the instance acting on their own volition (and I have asked you if goat specifically uses alts to mass-downvote people multiple times across the fediverse - and you haven’t confirmed if he does that).
Frequenting what comm? Are you talking about Tankiejerk or MeanwhileInGrad? I’ve never seen Rimu comment there ever.
Because it’s irrelevant to the point if they are downvoting with multiple accounts when using comms to drive users to do it for them. You’re also ignoring the admins of the instance not doing anything for comms doing that exact behavior.
Meanwhileongrad, but at this point both are doing it.
And yes rimu frequents Meanwhileongrad
Again, you would have to show some evidence that the actual instance owners are doing this or actively involved. Can I see a post that has been repeatedly hit by downvotes from goat alts, by the way?
I’ve just tracked back through 2 months of rimus comments and not found a single comment from him on Meanwhileongrad.
Got it, only counts if admins actively encouraging and instead of not doing anything about the comm
https://lemmy.world/post/35086986/19071974
Or that doesn’t count because not within 2 months?
Again: Can I see a post that has been repeatedly hit by downvotes from goat alts, by the way?
You claimed he “frequents” meanwhileongrad. A comment chain 5 months ago where the context is actually related to allegations against Piefed is hardly evidence of frequenting it. By your logic I am thus a frequent visitor of memes@lemmy.ml.
I see again this is useless as you can’t see anything past piefed positives and repetitively ignore the point to focus on specific unrelated specifics such as as alt accounts downvoting rather than dedicating an entire comm towards hate.
Because I’m not going to search his entire history when it’s one of his top comments, and the comment even reflects his entire philosophy
You are alleging here that there is already a user, or bloc of users that organise downvote raids against particular users or communities or instances and that their home instances - or the fediverse more broadly in the form of defederating their home instance, does nothing.
You bought this up in reference, to function as opposition to my claim that an instance that engaged in deliberate vote brigading would find itself potentially defederated. So I am effectively asking for receipts for your allegation.
Are you arguing that MeanwhileOnGrad should be shut down by the sh.itjust.works mods?
So you made an assumption because that particular comment of his got upvoted a lot. He is not a frequent user of meanwhileongrad.
Absolutely and now even goat is trying to argue their ignorance from the comm outside of this thread so I’m sure I’ll be getting lots of hate soon enough from others.
Again last I’m saying about this only bringing up as Goat is going to end up targeting me know, but sure ignore everything that has been brought up
What sort of hate are you anticipating?
I don’t feel like I’ve ignored anything at all in this chain.