Thought I’d create a distinct thread from the previous one asking about daily use, because I really do want to hear more on people’s pain points. Great to know people are generally sounding pretty positive in those posts who recently switched, but want to know your difficulties as well! This way old and new users can share their thoughts, hopefully to inspire a respectful discussion.
I only really have two pain points, one of which isn’t the fault of linux, and the other that probably is.
First: Adobe shit. I depend on Adobe Lightroom. This is entirely on Adobe. I know about the alternatives, but apparently I suck and can’t get good at them. I keep a Mac laptop around just to use this application. I tried screwing around with Wine and VMs to get it working, but it’s pretty useless without GPU acceleration, and so far the only way to get that in a VM is to have a second dedicated GPU just for the VM. Plus, that still requires keeping a Windows installation around.
Second: Wake from sleep. Just doesn’t work properly on my desktop PC running Fedora 43 with KDE. AMD CPU and GPU, etc. The computer does wake up but the display never does, and nothing short of a hard power cycle seems to make it recover. Works just fine on my Thinkpad which is running the same environment, also all AMD but with just whatever AMD integrated graphics came with the CPU in that case.
Having chatted with some other people experiencing the same thing with similar hardware setups and F43 with KDE it apparently doesn’t manifest if using GNOME, just KDE. For now I just have the desktop set to turn off the display when idle but to not put the machine to sleep. I am a KDE enjoyer, GNOME does not float my boat.
I really wish there was a good remote desktop method that supported attaching to my “local” session but keeping the displays locked. Similar to how windows RDP works.
If I have to remote into my work machine from home, I have XRDP setup to make a separate session that I can have run simultaneously to my local session. It’s fine, but if I could use the existing local session that would be superb (without unlocking my local displays while I’m not there is the big point)
GNOME has RDP/VNC abilities, but in my experience a) the screen has to be awake, or else it becomes none responsive, b) it only worked with one monitor IIRC, and c) it unlocks the local display.
x11vnchas issue C.I think KDE is working on improved Wayland RDP? Haven’t seen if it satisfies this. Sadly though, my work IT doesn’t support Wayland
I wish amdgpu would get debugged so I didn’t have to save every thirty seconds whenever I do anything.
External web cams. Even those that are said to be fairly compatible have issues. And it’s not with the cams, its v4l and the kernel drivers.
I Developed a iOS App with xtool and its Not legal to use Linux for App Development.
Dang what’re they go a do? Send you to jail?
Block account
I’m on openSUSE Tumbleweed using KDE Wayland
Sometimes my session will freeze up and I have to switch to tty and back to the GUI session to fix it.
I run a windows VM through winboat and it works well enough but it is particularly jank in regards to having multiple or even just 1 program open at times.
Every time I mount a veracrypt drive, baloorunner starts eating up my memory until I run out and I might have to hard reboot
Mobile… I want a Linux phone 😭
@Sprocketfree @cm0002 the problem is not that they don’t exist it’s that they barely have apps.
linux and the DEs dont make it easy to write apps for, this is a compositor/window manager/de issue to solve.
Want to write an for gnome? Javascript or c++. Enjoy libadwaita. Want to write for kde? C++ only. Dont want to write js and you only know kotlin/swift/java/objc? Tough fucking shit, get fucked. Want to write rust? Not supported by kde or gnome ootb, the learning resources are bare etc. Oh and for kde you have to learn QT as well have fun:)
Itd be cool if rust was the baseline standard for writing apps and was fully supported by the major DEs. I honestly cannot be bothered to learn C++ just to make a tiny app for my desktop, I will never use it again in my life because it is dying.
@dreadbeef C bindings can be used on Rust so Gnome should be easier. I find QTs lack of AT-SPI to be a non starter. Also nothing says you need to use gnome or it if you’re making your own mobile first compositor.
right, but popular (and valid imo) complaint about mobile on linux is the lack of apps. GUI applications either have to bring their own GUI toolkit (slint/qt/etc) or use the one provided by the host (the DE on linux). Like all of linux, its very fragmented at the moment, and theres no clear leader
@dreadbeef super valid point. I do believe having a Wayland compositor that just reformatted the app via ST-API would be a massive first step. It would force accessibility and dynamic sizing. Given only Gnome has ST-API built in. Qt is just a mess for accessibility
I know… And I’m sad
Fedora: requires some rework of Nvidia drivers to wake the screen back up from sleep. Updating GPU drivers does nothing to improve game rendering so frame rates for games of yesteryear on a RTX3080 were single digit. Required some changes to h264 drivers just so I could see videos on YouTube or Dailymotion while simultaneously messing with my VLC install. My VPN blocks off my subnet whenever it’s on so I can’t access my NAS.
CachyOS (Arch fork): drivers for my printer aren’t available without compiling them myself which did not go well. My preferred 3d printer slicer is difficult to install but that’s because I’m a total noob when it comes to installing anything from GitHub. My VPN blocks off my subnet whenever it’s on I can’t access my NAS.
So far ChachyOS has given me the best experience out of a few other distros like Mint or Bazzite.
Why am I seeing like 5 different posts like these, all of the sudden? They’re all the same, literally same title, just posted by different users.
I crossposted this from .ml (but text posts like these don’t really crosspost well, which is why I tagged the original user instead for attribution) but it appears that the original user posted it themselves to like 3 other different comms, just on different instances so I didn’t notice lol
Multiplayer games in Civilizations VI take much longer to load on Linux Mint than they used to on Windows. Multiple minutes now vs about half a minute previously. Once loaded it’s fine, no noticable differences between old and new. The longer loading times do become quite annoying when we need to reload/reconnect due to networking issues.
Are you running the native version or through Proton? When I played Civ VI the Linux native version performed worse than using Proton, ironically. Either way, maybe try switching?
Since you specified multiplayer I’m guessing it’s not time to load from disk or anything.
I’m running it through proton, didn’t get the audio on the native version to work
I guess the biggest thing I’m missing right now is VR gaming.
But since my VR googles need WMR to work, I wouldn’t be any better off with Windows 11 either.
I was surprised to find my Valve Index work flawlessly after switching to Linux (Pop!_OS). Even had a better framerate in some games.
I’m looking forward to the Steam Frame, hopefully it’ll support SteamOS out of the box
I would be a lot more excited if I wasn’t worried it was going to cost +$1,099. I hope that I am wrong.
that is just for the memory
They said they are shooting for less than the price of the index so that’s $999 or less, not sure if they will reneg on that due to ram prices.
It’s also unclear if they’re comparing it to the cost of the index with or without the Lighthouses.
We’ll just have to wait and see.
Same. Quest 2. Fedora 43. 5700X3D / 9070 XT. Steam Link can’t find AMD video decoder on the pc to run. ALVR has death wobble-like reprojection jitter. WiVrn works when Envision feels like it, which is never as it constantly errors out compiling due to some dependency I can’t find for the life of me.
I know compiling from source is preferred as “the linux way”, but I would like to spend more time actually using my pc than fixing it. There’s no reason the VR software needs to be recompiled just to change a setting. Maybe bake in the ability to change settings instead of hardcoding everything.
Wine would be super helpful if they can find way to make older (2019 and older) Quickbooks run reliably. Lots of small businesses locked into old platforms because the accountants or the people who do accounting themselves can’t learn how to use anything else, and the linux alternatives require a phd in linuxology to learn and don’t offer the easy business-in-a-box functionality.
Waydroid is neat, but poorly integrated in the desktop. It runs as a full screen app, and doesn’t task switch easily.
Please, Valve, make Steam a 64-bit native client! So few people use 32-bit systems that the few that do probably aren’t running Steam to save on memory.
Pipewire audio devices and webcam support needs to be smoother. I’ve never seen so much console shim hacks just to get a virtual webcam working.
I haven’t even begun to try my NXT Gladiator flight stick in linux… that might be a whole nother can of trouble to open.
I had the same issue as you with steam link and my 7800xt. Putting this in my launch args for SteamVR fixed it
RADV_PERFTEST=video_decode,video_encode DRI_PRIME=1 ~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/common/SteamVR/bin/vrmonitor.sh %command%and if you try that and get a different error code from before, ( I think it was like 1033) swap your mesa drivers to the freeworld variety. That should besudo dnf swap mesa-vulkan-drivers mesa-vulkan-drivers-freeworld.The only thing is, steamvr can’t display your desktop properly if you’re using wayland, it simply doesn’t support it. BUT here’s a cool project that can help you work around it, for some reason there’s currently a bug with their pipewire implementation (or something like that) such that you have to manually connect the display streams in the coppwr pipewire gui (helvum and carla don’t work), otherwise it’ll only show one frame of the display stream.
y’know what, I’m actually gonna make a post about this, since it took me many hours of searching forums to find this solution.
- It’s annoying to set up hibernate on Kubuntu and I can’t seem to figure out how to add it to the UI.
- i really miss the login UI of W11, just select pin, fingerprint, fido key or password. On kubuntu I have to unplug the fido key so it fails if I want to use my password. The UI also has no indication of wether I am entering the pin for the fido key or my linux password.
When fingerprint or whatever is setup as a PAM module for login it can decrypt your home folder, so you can do the initial login with it
I’m using Fedora KDE, and for the first time in my life, an upgrade (42 to 43) completely borked the system, in a way that I couldn’t boot to anything else other than a kernel panic.
I had to boot up a live USB, mount and chroot into the old system, and manually fix each duplicated / corrupted package. And it still caused every now and then some weird issue with dnf, so in the end I just reinstalled the entire OS.
I feel like updates “offered” via a nice and convenient gui shouldn’t really do this out of nowhere - and I wasn’t the only one to report this in the past half year.
I found on the 42->43 upgrade, Wine 32-bit was removed, and the upgrader errors out instead of fixing it. Wht I did to fix was immediately, manually (via dnf) uninstall wine*, then immediately run the upgrade again, and it fixed itself, finishing the upgrade with 64-bit Wine installed.
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The biggest difficulty is music production plugins. Some have a Linux version, some work via yabridge and wine (with some GUI bugs), and some don’t work at all.
On top of that, my initial attempt was using Mint with all of the audio optimisations (including kernel) but it was stuttery and slow. Unfortunately, oving to another distro is not painless when you have to move all the plugins too but CachyOS has been much better so far.
Native Linux audio plugins are frustratingly uncommon. I’m gradually trying to replace my Windows plugins with Linux native ones but it’s hard to do sometimes. My thing lately has been building my own replacements with plugdata.
Plugdata seems like a deep rabbit hole, so I’m a little afraid of it but maybe that’s the next step.
For now, I’ll share my latest Linux plugin find: https://store.harrisonaudio.com/all-products/harrison-32classic-channel-strip says it doesn’t support Linux but if you buy it and download the “old” version from here https://support.harrisonaudio.com/hc/en-gb/articles/19516617411613-Harrison-AVA-downloads-OLD-VERSIONS (it has the same version number as the most recent Windows copy), then you can activate it and it works well. I think I had to say no to linking iLok when purchasing. It’s crap that they’ve recently stopped supporting Linux (because they’ve moved to using iLok) but I’ve been happy with the plugin.
Plugdata is a rabbit hole, but thankfully you only need to learn a few dozen of the most common objects to start making things. It took me a week of low effort learning before I could make patches without needing tutorials or outside help. The built-in documentation is all you need after that.
Does that plugin have a distinct sound you like? To be honest I’ve never moved beyond my DAW’s stock eq and compressor. And god, iLok is a scourge.
Okay, that doesn’t sound too bad then!
I’ve been looking for a good channel strip for a bit as I’ve heard good things about them as a workflow. Also, aa it’s an emulation of a physical device rather than a more perfect compressor etc, it adds some nice colouration that works really well for some instruments. The saturation is particularly nice and I’m surprised how much I like using the EQ.
And yeah, iLok is awful.
You might enjoy this video/series: https://youtu.be/yawlonjLp4c
I’ve been trying to get my audio working the way I want (instead of everything just going to the default sink), and it’s been helpful.
Thanks, I’ll take a look!
I have the same problem with nixos. It’s partially solved but some plugin derivations are behind the times or something (or maybe I’m the problem and I can blame documentation :P)
