The twin cities mutual aid groups have had to quickly establish a network of spotters and chasers for ICE vehicles and abductions. The point is to be present when abductions happen to record what’s happening and alert the neighborhood. Right wing agitators are also a target, but the mutual aid networks are swamped with other tasks. What he’s describing has some basis in reality, and I’m sure he did get spotted and followed… probably because he was being conspicuous, and people are on alert.
The point about “being present when abductions happen”, made me wonder if it might be a good idea to step up the ops and rope in FPV drone pilots.
Provides footage and annoys agents without putting people in harms way
Could be good, but could also be jammed. Have they been jamming cell and/or bluetooth out there? Also could be in violation of FAA laws (not that it really matters here).
This is true but jammers work both ways, and take a lot of resources and time to set up. For fast changing events like MA it’s unlikely the cops or ICE have this sort of infrastructure ready.
Even if they can jam a small area, that ties up pigs who will still endure fatigue from long hours and overtime. Meanwhile, outside of urban centers where jammers are best ROI you will enjoy free reign over the pigs.
Oh, and the jammers deployed by pigs aren’t as powerful or advanced as military grade stuff. I wonder how good those jammers would work against broadcasts outside of the consumer drone spectrum.
Also these drones operate in the same frequency bands as Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
I would assume it would rapidly decrease acceptance for ICE operations even further, when everytime the bastards come rolling in, people’s consumer devices start going down
Messy and leaves a trail to your location. Makes sense for combat where littering isn’t a common issue, but fibre optics arent much benefit when drones can be made cheap enough to deal with the attrition of jamming.
Jamming is expensive, ties up resources and is pretty ineffective when done from the ground.
Either you jam a whole area from above, which would take down WiFi and Bluetooth communications for everyone in range, or each pig van has their own jammer in the car which would be super expensive and would only work reliably within line of sight.
I just think it would be fucking hilarious to see their operations get swarmed by like 1 or 2 larger DJI drones monitoring an area from above and several smaller FPV drones zipping around them getting up in their faces and monitoring their actions close-up without anyone having to risk catching a bullet.
This of course would violate FAA no fly zones and probably would be prosecuted as a federal crime…but who gives a shit. They still would have to catch the pilots and it sure beats losing an eye or getting executed by a coked up neo-nazi on a power trip
This is combination of fact and fiction.
Obvs the “autonomous zone” stuff is bullshit.
The twin cities mutual aid groups have had to quickly establish a network of spotters and chasers for ICE vehicles and abductions. The point is to be present when abductions happen to record what’s happening and alert the neighborhood. Right wing agitators are also a target, but the mutual aid networks are swamped with other tasks. What he’s describing has some basis in reality, and I’m sure he did get spotted and followed… probably because he was being conspicuous, and people are on alert.
The point about “being present when abductions happen”, made me wonder if it might be a good idea to step up the ops and rope in FPV drone pilots. Provides footage and annoys agents without putting people in harms way
Could be good, but could also be jammed. Have they been jamming cell and/or bluetooth out there? Also could be in violation of FAA laws (not that it really matters here).
This is true but jammers work both ways, and take a lot of resources and time to set up. For fast changing events like MA it’s unlikely the cops or ICE have this sort of infrastructure ready.
Even if they can jam a small area, that ties up pigs who will still endure fatigue from long hours and overtime. Meanwhile, outside of urban centers where jammers are best ROI you will enjoy free reign over the pigs.
Oh, and the jammers deployed by pigs aren’t as powerful or advanced as military grade stuff. I wonder how good those jammers would work against broadcasts outside of the consumer drone spectrum.
Also these drones operate in the same frequency bands as Bluetooth and Wi-Fi.
I would assume it would rapidly decrease acceptance for ICE operations even further, when everytime the bastards come rolling in, people’s consumer devices start going down
Fiber optic drones are a thing
Messy and leaves a trail to your location. Makes sense for combat where littering isn’t a common issue, but fibre optics arent much benefit when drones can be made cheap enough to deal with the attrition of jamming.
I’m just saying it can like go directly upwards and down for quick scouting
Jamming is expensive, ties up resources and is pretty ineffective when done from the ground.
Either you jam a whole area from above, which would take down WiFi and Bluetooth communications for everyone in range, or each pig van has their own jammer in the car which would be super expensive and would only work reliably within line of sight.
I just think it would be fucking hilarious to see their operations get swarmed by like 1 or 2 larger DJI drones monitoring an area from above and several smaller FPV drones zipping around them getting up in their faces and monitoring their actions close-up without anyone having to risk catching a bullet.
This of course would violate FAA no fly zones and probably would be prosecuted as a federal crime…but who gives a shit. They still would have to catch the pilots and it sure beats losing an eye or getting executed by a coked up neo-nazi on a power trip