• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    18 days ago

    He tells people it’s okay to support the oppressor,

    no he doesn’t. he said personal boycotts aren’t effective

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      18 days ago

      no he doesn’t. he said personal boycotts aren’t effective

      Same thing. This is non-sequitur logic. If an individual action is “not effective”, that’s clearly an endorsement for not boycotting personally, thus patronise.

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          18 days ago

          Nonsense. There’s no “leap” in understanding a definition. Boycotting /means/ patronisation is not okey. To not boycott is to be okay with patronisation. By definition. You can’t have it both ways. You cannot coherently claim it’s not okay to patronise a baddy while taking a stance against boycotting.

          Is it okay to patronise bad player X? If not, then boycotting is required. If yes, then you are not boycotting.

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            18 days ago

            being ok with patronization is not the same as endorsing oppression. that’s the lep you’re making

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              18 days ago

              Context is paramount. In this context, the supplier is the oppressor. If the supplier is not an oppressor, that’s out of scope.

              (edit) btw, endorsing oppression and supporting oppression are not the same thing. I said Doctorow /supports/ oppression with his stance, not that he endorses it. He clearly does not endorse it, but his approach does not do justice to his intent.

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                18 days ago

                btw, endorsing oppression and supporting oppression are not the same thing.

                this is a semantic game

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                  18 days ago

                  No, that difference between those words is important. My stance is in fact that Doctorow does not endorse oppression but he supports it through his actions and advocacy – unintentionally of course.

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                    18 days ago

                    Doctorow does not endorse oppression but he supports it through advocacy

                    this is so self contradictory no one should take it seriously