I’m using the same gmail (as recovery email) that i’m using in youtube and instagram. I was talking to someone using conversations about removing ads from smart tv, and when i logged to youtube after, found a vid about it. This was the second time, the first time was instagram, similair thing.
Update: I replaced my recovery email with proton and Big AND, deleted knox matrxi. No more suggestions. I think it was knox matrix.
Fuck, i’m a fucking idiot. Do u know any messaging app that uses a server and doesn’t share shit?
Anything that’s fully end-to-end encrypted and trustworthy. So, Signal, iMessage, and ProtonMail (but only to other ProtonMail users) come to mind. WhatsApp and Telegram are supposedly E2EE, but I don’t trust them.
PM is automayically E2EE too if the recepient’s server supports WKD or has uploaded their pubkey to keys.openpgp.org.
Ah, ok. That’s good to know. :)
Yeah but i thought that if I put my gmail as a recovery email in conversations it will be used as a fucking recovery email, not to share messaging infos
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Conversations is just a client, right? So if your server or your friend’s server is run by or backed by Google, they have the messages.
XMPP is not end to end encrypted, so whatever server you use, unless you own it, will have access to your messages. If that’s something you’re not comfortable with, you can run your own server or use an E2EE messenger.
Almost every current XMPP client, including conversations, supports OMEMO E2E encryption by default.
This happend with OMEMO, for the server just whatever jabber.network got me
Hmm. Ok, then the likelihood Google was monitoring anything is pretty low. Unless they were monitoring your screen or your microphone. Do you have any AI screenshot features enabled?
No, i don’t even have gms and samsung apps (using samsung), no ai. The only google apps i have left are android system apps that if i removed my system will break. And the only samsung apps i have are settings, clock, camera and UI stuff
Ok. I’d say the likelihood it was a coincidence is pretty high then, but not 100%. We can’t really know all of what Google is monitoring when you use an Android phone, since their code on top of AOSP is closed source. It sounds unlikely that this was because of active monitoring though.
If OMEMO was on, then Google didn’t read your message. Also now you say you weren’t using your Google account but a server from jabber.network? How about your interlocutor? If both of you were using an account for a random server on the jabber.network list, then Google wasn’t reading your messages, even with OMEMO turned off.
I said that the google account was used as a recovery email, this is in the post btw
I don’t think that was very clear since other people also assumed you were using it as your account in Conversations.
A recovery email doesn’t really have anything to do with XMPP. Using Google or whatever won’t make them be able to read your messages.
Yep true
Conversations.