Quite the package. I‘d be interested which fascists you are talking about, how they are being bootlicked and for which genocide these people are. You‘re just throwing mud, bring some substance, so I can learn something or at least have a laugh at you.
lmao, you’re the same Uyghur genocide denier that came here last time. Didn’t you call this place a Nazi bar? What are you doing hanging out in a place where you (delusionally) think Nazis gather?
I guess you’re really desperate to sit at a table with fellow genocide deniers, but unfortunately for you, you’ll not find your kind here. Try back on .ml.
Wow, straight to the genocide denier defamation, you‘re a real and absolutely unhinged class act.
I stand by my classification of this place as a Nazi bar. Just the other day your bartender colleague goat showed their racism, when confronted with their dumb perspectives on the (actual) Gaza genocide. This only adds to the pile for this community, which consists of hate speech (dehumanizing, ableism, othering), racism, genocide denial, propaganda, bad faith engagement.
I‘m just here to confront you with your bullshittery. Show onlookers and passerbys what this place is. And by not doing much at all, automatically tanking my holy social credit score.
Kind of funny, how you wonder what I‘m doing here, when you and your ilk are the ones actually stalking other communities in order to screenshot them, willfully misinterpret them, laugh at them. At least I am actually here, not cowardly gossiping about your ignorant takes in other communities.
What a sad collection of individuals you are. I wonder who‘s actually living in whose head.
Now, back to your deranged mud-slinging into the void:
So the „pro-genocide“ refers to the Uyghurs, as you‘ve now made clear with your outright defamation. And you are angry, because there are people that actually read and look through the evidence (which is more than you ever did) and determine that it‘s not a genocide, bring the receipts for it and also find that it‘s highly suspicious, that every information on this falls back on this Adrian Zenz character, some western three-letter-agency reports and really nothing else.
And you really wish that people would pay more attention to this, because you care so deeply about muslim minorities, right? Right?
Let’s move on.
Who are the fascists, tho? What‘s the bootlicking? Just trying to understand your weird takes.
The Chinese have enslaved their entire factory working population in effect, forcing hundreds of millions of small holders off their farms and into the cities, where they don’t have residency, and are illegals, to work at factories on 6-12’s, 6 days a week, 12 hours a day, for starvation wages. If they complain they can be jailed, beaten up, thrown out of town on a word from their employer.
I know what you are going to say, China outlawed 6-12’s, but employers still make them work them and just pay them for the official hours. They have no benefits, no protection, no safety net. They sold out generations of their citizens to destitute poverty to garner western technology, and use the greed of wall street et al to build their factories for them in the process. All for investors to in effect arbitrage factory work, undercutting labor and environmental standards in a race to the bottom, building cheap, in foreign currencies, selling high in western currencies.
Their abuses of their citizens go well beyond the horrific way they’ve treated their restive minority populations.
I got into it at chapotraphouse, not realizing what they were, thinking they were just super politically correct westerners. A couple decent ones told me, two score trolling messages deep after I offended their “eastern governments,” as not an aspirational model for the west. But the few I made nice with that explained to me they were communists living outside the US didn’t stop the rest. I quit responding after a bit, being flooded by multiple attacks. But they would follow me onto other threads and troll me, still do occasionally months later. When returning to their instance to make a few marginally popular comments, one responded with a link to the offending comment from months prior too, and sparked another wave of brigading. Meaning they somehow had my account flagged, and they likely have sort of enforcers as I gather. (edited for clarity.)
Plus I’m pretty sure some have accounts on other instances that they’ve came and trolled me with, one for sure I’ve got pegged, made right after the incident and not having many other comments that keeps popping up in other instances for the troll, one calling me a troll and telling everyone to block me and move on for instance, on a marginally downvoted comment I made arguing about the direction of the resistance. (edited for clarity.)
Talking to others about the defederation, which I was against moreso before talking and learning more about it, they are rather known for that. Making burner accounts and trolling people, and have chased off a lot of new users that wander onto their instance as I did. I think other tools should be used than defederation still, like a warning, having to opt in to even not have them blocked, which I’ve been told piefed has the tools to do.
I might make a piefed account as well here at some point after researching which one, the lemmy I’m on is great though just lacking in some functionality aspects like context, I can’t respond to comments not directed to me on that chain of comments from there but would have to find it in all comments under my instances view for instance as context takes me to the other instance’s page. But I hear there are extensions I’m supposed to be using so I need to try that.
So the „pro-genocide“ refers to the Uyghurs, as you‘ve now made clear with your outright defamation. And you are angry, because there are people that actually read and look through the evidence (which is more than you ever did) and determine that it‘s not a genocide, bring the receipts for it and also find that it‘s highly suspicious, that every information on this falls back on this Adrian Zenz character, some western three-letter-agency reports and really nothing else.
I can’t believe I would defame you with something you admit in the very same comment, how inaccurate of me.
Fascist bootlickers really just can’t help yourselves, can you?
Ya, so easy to dismiss anything like that, real good faith commentary.
See, that would be a useful answer, if I actually stated, that I agreed with this stuff. But I want to know from you, PugJesus, if you read the evidence and actually disagree with it and if so, why?
And now you just call me a fascist bootlicker, how ridiculous are you?
So I can’t see that. Is that information only available to mods? Does it just count the numbers on this instance and not all instances?
I was told there is a attitude number too, showing rank of upvoting and downvoting. I think it might be good to have the information available to everyone, to suss out the motivations of commenters, to help differentiate between people that honestly disagree and influence agents, bots, chatbots, etc. Which are rife on all social media now it seems, including lemmy to a lesser degree it appears though not sure as to the extent. Reddit, facebook, twatter, et al are overrun, especially the latter two.
Attitude is public (I can see yours at 88%, I’m currently sitting at 90%).
Reputation is not (though not sure to what degree - is anything on the fediverse not public?), I think it’s visible to moderators and/or instance owners. Everyone can see if you’re a total dickwad though:
Oh thanks for the response, my instance does not seem to give me that information unfortunately, although those icons do seem familiar I just checked the page on my instance and I’ve no such attitude checker icon, neither on the comment nor their profile, running through context, which follows under the host instance’s site, I see nothing either.
I guess that is a reason to start looking at other instances on lemmy or piefed for a second account and or write my instance and ask for that although I hate to demand they work more for free I appreciate the work they’ve done already.
Oh I see yes sorry I should’ve realized that was just a piefed feature not sure how other instances work though I am relatively knew here from reddit which I hate and distrust the administration of even as there are a lot of great people on there.
Seems like a very doable add on for lemmy though, if even one wrote some base code change for it other developers of other instances of lemmy could add it in with minimal effort I would think, although I know little of developing internet sites admittedly. I don’t see why one would not want that information added.
And why now does Piefed have such a thing? So divergent, critical accounts get marked and the well behaved good citizens, like you, get to know exactly, who the troublemakers are, priming them before they even engage? Gotta make sure everyone is on their best behaviour and nobody starts making a fuss.
You permaban accounts by automod? Reddit’s automod is corrupted. For Israel, and to protect other powerful figures. If you get into it with connected influence agents on certain subjects, even without breaking the rules, they find an unrelated conversation to take issue with, not bothering to find a plausible one that’s against the rules.
Lately the comment you get violated for is not even shown to you either, they remove it and their link to the offending comment shows nothing. In appealing and pointing that out they just confirm the violation without addressing that you aren’t shown the offending comment, and confirm bad faith violations that no reasonable person would think is promoting violence or other such ad hoc accusation.
We have no rights online in the US so they don’t have to try and make it believable, let alone wait and find a plausible violation.
Idk if permabans by automod are therefore proper. The more popular the fediverse gets, the more the powerful will get their hooks into it. Unjust enforcements will prevent federated social media from getting the critical mass to unseat the silicon valley parasites that government and monied interests have their hooks into as the only games in world.
I think those actions should have appeals, leading to jury trials of users online. It would install trust in the system, in a time when trust is fast eroding from everywhere as the rot in society has spread into plain view.
With the right systems, the new federated social media, including new ones to fill other needs, interoperable with lemmy and piefed and mastadon, peertube, et al, and the like, could be the key to organizing, to working people cooperating on what they agree on, and in the fullness of time, to making political machines that can break the oligarchies’ death grip on our politics, and restore our liberal democracies to their relative glory in the post war years, before the 1971 Business Roundtable made a long game for big business to cooperate on what they agree on, like crushing liberal democracy, and creating a monster they arrogantly think they can control after it achieves absolute power, something they are well on their way towards, not just in the US either.
I have no control over automod and it exists because this community regularly gets spambots and other spammers. We’d all prefer not to have automod, but there’s not much we can do about it since the spammers refuse to stop.
![Fascist bootlickers call Piefed a CIA op and thought policing because [checks notes] it has admin tools for checking upvote/downvote reputation](https://media.piefed.social/posts/y9/uO/y9uOwnSI62W4hjZ.jpg){kind=link}
Quite the package. I‘d be interested which fascists you are talking about, how they are being bootlicked and for which genocide these people are. You‘re just throwing mud, bring some substance, so I can learn something or at least have a laugh at you.
lmao, you’re the same Uyghur genocide denier that came here last time. Didn’t you call this place a Nazi bar? What are you doing hanging out in a place where you (delusionally) think Nazis gather?
I guess you’re really desperate to sit at a table with fellow genocide deniers, but unfortunately for you, you’ll not find your kind here. Try back on .ml.
Wow, straight to the genocide denier defamation, you‘re a real and absolutely unhinged class act.
I stand by my classification of this place as a Nazi bar. Just the other day your bartender colleague goat showed their racism, when confronted with their dumb perspectives on the (actual) Gaza genocide. This only adds to the pile for this community, which consists of hate speech (dehumanizing, ableism, othering), racism, genocide denial, propaganda, bad faith engagement.
I‘m just here to confront you with your bullshittery. Show onlookers and passerbys what this place is. And by not doing much at all, automatically tanking my holy social credit score.
Kind of funny, how you wonder what I‘m doing here, when you and your ilk are the ones actually stalking other communities in order to screenshot them, willfully misinterpret them, laugh at them. At least I am actually here, not cowardly gossiping about your ignorant takes in other communities.
What a sad collection of individuals you are. I wonder who‘s actually living in whose head.
Now, back to your deranged mud-slinging into the void:
So the „pro-genocide“ refers to the Uyghurs, as you‘ve now made clear with your outright defamation. And you are angry, because there are people that actually read and look through the evidence (which is more than you ever did) and determine that it‘s not a genocide, bring the receipts for it and also find that it‘s highly suspicious, that every information on this falls back on this Adrian Zenz character, some western three-letter-agency reports and really nothing else.
And you really wish that people would pay more attention to this, because you care so deeply about muslim minorities, right? Right?
Let’s move on.
Who are the fascists, tho? What‘s the bootlicking? Just trying to understand your weird takes.
The Chinese have enslaved their entire factory working population in effect, forcing hundreds of millions of small holders off their farms and into the cities, where they don’t have residency, and are illegals, to work at factories on 6-12’s, 6 days a week, 12 hours a day, for starvation wages. If they complain they can be jailed, beaten up, thrown out of town on a word from their employer.
I know what you are going to say, China outlawed 6-12’s, but employers still make them work them and just pay them for the official hours. They have no benefits, no protection, no safety net. They sold out generations of their citizens to destitute poverty to garner western technology, and use the greed of wall street et al to build their factories for them in the process. All for investors to in effect arbitrage factory work, undercutting labor and environmental standards in a race to the bottom, building cheap, in foreign currencies, selling high in western currencies.
Their abuses of their citizens go well beyond the horrific way they’ve treated their restive minority populations.
Walk into a bar
“Wow, this is a total nazi bar, everyone in here is associating with nazis!”
Sits down, orders beer, starts talking to people
I got them tagged as “calls everyone nazi type of tankie” from earlier. Looks I chose accurately.
I got into it at chapotraphouse, not realizing what they were, thinking they were just super politically correct westerners. A couple decent ones told me, two score trolling messages deep after I offended their “eastern governments,” as not an aspirational model for the west. But the few I made nice with that explained to me they were communists living outside the US didn’t stop the rest. I quit responding after a bit, being flooded by multiple attacks. But they would follow me onto other threads and troll me, still do occasionally months later. When returning to their instance to make a few marginally popular comments, one responded with a link to the offending comment from months prior too, and sparked another wave of brigading. Meaning they somehow had my account flagged, and they likely have sort of enforcers as I gather. (edited for clarity.)
Plus I’m pretty sure some have accounts on other instances that they’ve came and trolled me with, one for sure I’ve got pegged, made right after the incident and not having many other comments that keeps popping up in other instances for the troll, one calling me a troll and telling everyone to block me and move on for instance, on a marginally downvoted comment I made arguing about the direction of the resistance. (edited for clarity.)
Talking to others about the defederation, which I was against moreso before talking and learning more about it, they are rather known for that. Making burner accounts and trolling people, and have chased off a lot of new users that wander onto their instance as I did. I think other tools should be used than defederation still, like a warning, having to opt in to even not have them blocked, which I’ve been told piefed has the tools to do.
I might make a piefed account as well here at some point after researching which one, the lemmy I’m on is great though just lacking in some functionality aspects like context, I can’t respond to comments not directed to me on that chain of comments from there but would have to find it in all comments under my instances view for instance as context takes me to the other instance’s page. But I hear there are extensions I’m supposed to be using so I need to try that.
if you really feel that way why the fuck did you come back, if we’re not ‘your kind of nazis’
what a strange self own.
I can’t believe I would defame you with something you admit in the very same comment, how inaccurate of me.
Fascist bootlickers really just can’t help yourselves, can you?
Ya, so easy to dismiss anything like that, real good faith commentary.
See, that would be a useful answer, if I actually stated, that I agreed with this stuff. But I want to know from you, PugJesus, if you read the evidence and actually disagree with it and if so, why?
And now you just call me a fascist bootlicker, how ridiculous are you?
Answer my questions, I‘ll repeat them:
Who are the fascists? What‘s the bootlicking?
lmao
Coward.
im curious, nazi, can you tell me what my perspective was?
aaaand that’s why Piefed has a reputation flag.
So I can’t see that. Is that information only available to mods? Does it just count the numbers on this instance and not all instances?
I was told there is a attitude number too, showing rank of upvoting and downvoting. I think it might be good to have the information available to everyone, to suss out the motivations of commenters, to help differentiate between people that honestly disagree and influence agents, bots, chatbots, etc. Which are rife on all social media now it seems, including lemmy to a lesser degree it appears though not sure as to the extent. Reddit, facebook, twatter, et al are overrun, especially the latter two.
Attitude is public (I can see yours at 88%, I’m currently sitting at 90%).
Reputation is not (though not sure to what degree - is anything on the fediverse not public?), I think it’s visible to moderators and/or instance owners. Everyone can see if you’re a total dickwad though:
Oh thanks for the response, my instance does not seem to give me that information unfortunately, although those icons do seem familiar I just checked the page on my instance and I’ve no such attitude checker icon, neither on the comment nor their profile, running through context, which follows under the host instance’s site, I see nothing either.
I guess that is a reason to start looking at other instances on lemmy or piefed for a second account and or write my instance and ask for that although I hate to demand they work more for free I appreciate the work they’ve done already.
I think lemmy.today is lemmy, not piefed. Attitude and reputation are piefed features.
Oh I see yes sorry I should’ve realized that was just a piefed feature not sure how other instances work though I am relatively knew here from reddit which I hate and distrust the administration of even as there are a lot of great people on there.
Seems like a very doable add on for lemmy though, if even one wrote some base code change for it other developers of other instances of lemmy could add it in with minimal effort I would think, although I know little of developing internet sites admittedly. I don’t see why one would not want that information added.
Is that my social credit score?
And why now does Piefed have such a thing? So divergent, critical accounts get marked and the well behaved good citizens, like you, get to know exactly, who the troublemakers are, priming them before they even engage? Gotta make sure everyone is on their best behaviour and nobody starts making a fuss.
Pick up that can,
gullible foolcitizen.it must be strange tasting your own medicine.
How is any of this my own medicine? You‘re in a literal Nazi Bar, get out of it.
It’s always morally correct to laugh at Pugjesus - you don’t need to wait for a reason.
True praxis is you lot all letting me live 24/7 in your heads rent-free, comrade, thank you 🙏
You really aren’t that subtle, sweetheart. :)
Removed by mod
i didn’t remove this comment or ban you
probably automod
You permaban accounts by automod? Reddit’s automod is corrupted. For Israel, and to protect other powerful figures. If you get into it with connected influence agents on certain subjects, even without breaking the rules, they find an unrelated conversation to take issue with, not bothering to find a plausible one that’s against the rules.
Lately the comment you get violated for is not even shown to you either, they remove it and their link to the offending comment shows nothing. In appealing and pointing that out they just confirm the violation without addressing that you aren’t shown the offending comment, and confirm bad faith violations that no reasonable person would think is promoting violence or other such ad hoc accusation.
We have no rights online in the US so they don’t have to try and make it believable, let alone wait and find a plausible violation.
Idk if permabans by automod are therefore proper. The more popular the fediverse gets, the more the powerful will get their hooks into it. Unjust enforcements will prevent federated social media from getting the critical mass to unseat the silicon valley parasites that government and monied interests have their hooks into as the only games in world.
I think those actions should have appeals, leading to jury trials of users online. It would install trust in the system, in a time when trust is fast eroding from everywhere as the rot in society has spread into plain view.
With the right systems, the new federated social media, including new ones to fill other needs, interoperable with lemmy and piefed and mastadon, peertube, et al, and the like, could be the key to organizing, to working people cooperating on what they agree on, and in the fullness of time, to making political machines that can break the oligarchies’ death grip on our politics, and restore our liberal democracies to their relative glory in the post war years, before the 1971 Business Roundtable made a long game for big business to cooperate on what they agree on, like crushing liberal democracy, and creating a monster they arrogantly think they can control after it achieves absolute power, something they are well on their way towards, not just in the US either.
I have no control over automod and it exists because this community regularly gets spambots and other spammers. We’d all prefer not to have automod, but there’s not much we can do about it since the spammers refuse to stop.
lmao
Keep it up, sweetheart. :)