Related: Robert Reich posted earlier today that Tesla paid ZERO taxes on $5 billion in sales (earnings?), so that’s just fucking great.
Related: Robert Reich posted earlier today that Tesla paid ZERO taxes on $5 billion in sales (earnings?), so that’s just fucking great.
That’s because Bezos’s net worth is in imaginary money. His actual income from Amazon was only like $80k a year.
Unrealized gains shouldn’t be taxed unless they’re being used as collateral to get real money.
The fact that income is taxed while assets aren’t is the whole point of contention. Working people earn income. Wealthy people own assets. Therefore, working people pay more taxes than wealthy people and that’s not how a free and fair society is supposed to operate.
The problem is that assets have no tangible value until they’re actually sold, unless you’re going to tax the price it was purchased at every year. But that’s an issue because people like Bezos likely didn’t buy theirs. I guess you could use the price at market close on the day it was issued
The point of contention comes from not understanding that net worth using unrealized gains is always an estimate.
Bezos doesn’t have $240 billion. He has stuff that people think is worth $240 billion. The actual value is imaginary until you find someone willing to pay for it.
Which leads to another issue people don’t understand. If Bezos tried to liquidate $240b in stocks, he wouldn’t get anywhere near that. Bulk sales like that drop stock prices. Him doing it would probably tank the company.
The best way to try to assign a dollar amount to that imaginary money outside of a sale is when they use it as collateral to get real money.
Dude, I’m on 80k a year. Pretty sure I couldn’t afford a gazillion-dollar wedding in Venice
And? My point is the real money he got from Amazon that can actually be taxed is not the same as his estimated net worth.
Bezos doesn’t have a checking account with billions sitting in it. His wealth is in the unrealized gains on non-liquid assets. It’s imaginary money until it’s used as collateral for loans, at which point it should be taxed as a realized gain.
That would be the “unless it’s used as collateral to get real money.” part
Not that imaginary: Bezos sold $5.7bn worth of stock in 2025.
How about a wealth tax on this imaginary money?
What amount will be taxed? The assets change value every second the market is open. If you have a hard capture date, then the wealthy will tank their stocks right before.
The best way to tax it is to treat the use of the asset as collateral as a realized gain and tax it as such.