Look she’s a horrible person and I hate her as much as the next trans, but none of the news coverage on it I’ve seen so far actually has any evidence she was involved in the invitation. This kind of enthusiastic perpetuation of misinformation isn’t ok just because it aligns with our views.
JK Rowling has an extremely murky supply chain. By choice.
A good example I heard a while back: Rana Plaza collapse in Bangladesh was one of the worst industrial accidents ever. Death toll in the thousands. One of the companies involved was Primark, which makes the official Harry Potter apparel. Was HP apparel actually made in this particular death trap? We don’t know. JK won’t discuss it. But you know what she says, she just takes one look at her bank statement and all of the worries go away. We know that much.
Epstein invitation thing was just more of the same. Was JK personally involved? We don’t know. Did JK care? Evidently not.
Mis/disinformation contributes to the current culture of political divisiveness that is actively weaponized as a tool by the far right to harm trans people in service of their political goals. Rowling is an active participant in that. The normalizing of misinformation as part of a post truth world makes it easy to demonize trans people because then you don’t have to care about all the evidence that runs contrary to the fear mongering. We’re not going to build a just world safe for trans people with fascist tools, and we’re not going to resist transphobia using their playbook.
In this specific context, it is also a needlessly weak argument. It’s easily dismissed by people sympathetic to her as factually inaccurate, and plays into Rowling’s demonizing of trans people. U/rose’s reply is far more compelling an analysis. There’s plenty of fucked up things about her, we don’t need to overreach.
Also, call me old fashioned but yes, just because. I think critical thinking and showing the evidence is a good thing actually.
That was actually the whole joke here. She spent all this time spreading unfounded rumors about trans people and now there will be unfounded rumors about her because Epstein mentioned her in an email.
The joke in the meme is John Cena laughing at JKR being in the Epstein files, though.
That’s not a joke, it’s disinformation.
If the text said something about it being rumored, that would feel more like a joke. That would be sweet karma. But it’s not cool when they post disinformation, and it’s not cool when we do it either.
While it’s non-defensible; a lot of people just believe what they see in memes. A family member of mine is like that.
The joke in the meme is John Cena laughing at JKR being in the Epstein files, though. That’s not a joke, it’s disinformation.
But JKR is objectively “in the Epstein files.” It’s not clear whether she was directly or intentionally involved, but her name is absolutely present in the files. This meme isn’t misinformation at all.
“The guy who says ‘You can’t see me’ thinks its funny that JKR is in the Epstein files” doesn’t change anything.
The “personal attack” quip shows your hand, anyway.
Look, all I’m saying is that if someone goes and repeats disinformation to someone who knows better, it makes them look dumb, which makes the movement look dumb. It doesn’t help anyone. It makes us more emotional, which makes us less effective.
Look she’s a horrible person and I hate her as much as the next trans, but none of the news coverage on it I’ve seen so far actually has any evidence she was involved in the invitation. This kind of enthusiastic perpetuation of misinformation isn’t ok just because it aligns with our views.
JK Rowling has an extremely murky supply chain. By choice.
A good example I heard a while back: Rana Plaza collapse in Bangladesh was one of the worst industrial accidents ever. Death toll in the thousands. One of the companies involved was Primark, which makes the official Harry Potter apparel. Was HP apparel actually made in this particular death trap? We don’t know. JK won’t discuss it. But you know what she says, she just takes one look at her bank statement and all of the worries go away. We know that much.
Epstein invitation thing was just more of the same. Was JK personally involved? We don’t know. Did JK care? Evidently not.
That’s a good analysis. I’m not trying to defend her here, just saying that framing it as she did it herself is a sloppy reading of the evidence.
okay so like, why is it bad? do you have any reason other than “beause”?
Mis/disinformation contributes to the current culture of political divisiveness that is actively weaponized as a tool by the far right to harm trans people in service of their political goals. Rowling is an active participant in that. The normalizing of misinformation as part of a post truth world makes it easy to demonize trans people because then you don’t have to care about all the evidence that runs contrary to the fear mongering. We’re not going to build a just world safe for trans people with fascist tools, and we’re not going to resist transphobia using their playbook.
In this specific context, it is also a needlessly weak argument. It’s easily dismissed by people sympathetic to her as factually inaccurate, and plays into Rowling’s demonizing of trans people. U/rose’s reply is far more compelling an analysis. There’s plenty of fucked up things about her, we don’t need to overreach.
Also, call me old fashioned but yes, just because. I think critical thinking and showing the evidence is a good thing actually.
That was actually the whole joke here. She spent all this time spreading unfounded rumors about trans people and now there will be unfounded rumors about her because Epstein mentioned her in an email.
The joke in the meme is John Cena laughing at JKR being in the Epstein files, though. That’s not a joke, it’s disinformation.
If the text said something about it being rumored, that would feel more like a joke. That would be sweet karma. But it’s not cool when they post disinformation, and it’s not cool when we do it either.
While it’s non-defensible; a lot of people just believe what they see in memes. A family member of mine is like that.
But JKR is objectively “in the Epstein files.” It’s not clear whether she was directly or intentionally involved, but her name is absolutely present in the files. This meme isn’t misinformation at all.
Her name appearing in the files is not the same as “JK Rowling being in the files.”
Don’t defend this kind of thinking… When I see it, I just see an agitator.
After the shit she’s pulled, i could not give a single wet fart about the precious reputation of that transphobic little fuck.
It’s not about her. It’s about us and the standards we hold ourselves to.
One of my standards is not rewarding people who dedicate their lives to killing my friends
John Cena… The guy who’s famous for saying “You can’t see me!” which spawned millions of memes.
It’s called tongue in cheek… I deserve smarter detractors.
That makes no sense.
“The guy who says ‘You can’t see me’ thinks its funny that JKR is in the Epstein files” doesn’t change anything.
The “personal attack” quip shows your hand, anyway.
Look, all I’m saying is that if someone goes and repeats disinformation to someone who knows better, it makes them look dumb, which makes the movement look dumb. It doesn’t help anyone. It makes us more emotional, which makes us less effective.
Sounds like your meme went over my head then, but I still maintain that the comment I replied to is possibly misinformation.
Thank you for bringing this up. I agree, disinformation is harmful no matter where it comes from.