• HobbitFoot @thelemmy.club
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    3 days ago

    But the issue is that the phone and camera would need to be updated together. A large cost to the camera is the sensor and it doesn’t need to be updated at the cadence of the rest of the phone.

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        2 days ago

        By the time that phones were good enough not to upgrade every two years, cameras in phones were good enough for most consumers.

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          Phones been ‘good’ enough for 15 years. Long before their cameras caught up. They just made new phones harder to fix so your forced to ‘upgrade’ or disable networks that bricked many.

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            Having used phones 15 years ago, it wasn’t. There may be some cases where a phone could live on longer, but two years was generally a decent cadence to buy a new phone.

            Once you get to the 5-10 year mark, cameras on phones were generally good enough for most users.

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              2 days ago

              The samsung galaxy S was released 15 years ago. Its fully capable to doing everything a modern phone can. Just samsung abandon its software well over a decade ago.

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      3 days ago

      pull a fair phone and make the sensor easily replaceable/upgradable. so you can get a new phone, without getting another sensor.

      definitely in the more proficient and not for everyone.

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          2 days ago

          I know, that trend should be reversed, a1200$ high quality DSLR phone compatible with a major lens standard, with a modular sensor would be a good deal though.

          Let me dream man, not like I can afford it anyways

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            2 days ago

            Without the lens, the camera still costs a lot of money and a lot of that is due to the sensor and the image processing which comes from that.

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              2 days ago

              man, i hope you don’t take this seriously, this is just me dreaming about a phone I could never afford.

              make the base model just a high end phone with replaceable camera module, with a normal phone camera it’ll be about an average phone, with camera app designed for photography. another module with a better sensor and dslr lens dock with full compatibility with a major lens standard. it might cost 600, or another 1000 for a high end one.

              I wish we had modularity and innovation instead of endless enshitification

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                2 days ago

                I’m not taking it as you being hateful against me personally, I’m just being realistic given the market compared to your wants.

                Phone manufacturers have come up with ways to handle depth of field which involve more than one camera, which invalidates a phone with an amazing sensor attached to a lens. The market isn’t going to provide the device you want.

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                  2 days ago

                  sorry, I felt like you might be annoyed with me. hard to read tone in just text.

                  one big advantage is that phone cameras are so good nowadays because they can leverage the relatively powerful processors for imagine processing, even in a live stream. imagine the image quality of a phone due to software processing + from high quality lens/sensor.

                  maybe more of a professional tool. was disappointed when Red tried making a phone and it was just an expensive phone.

                  again, I miss innovation,

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                    2 days ago

                    Working in an industry that sometimes requires photos to be taken for documentation purposes, cameras that are cameras alone have been abandoned for years. The camera on a phone or tablet is considered good enough, with the most attention recently given to wearable cameras or drones.

                    Innovation happened, but not within the existing camera form.