• CyborgMarx [any, any]@hexbear.net
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    3 hours ago

    You’ve made one crucial error, you’re assuming people open to our political thought are ideological liberals and that the majority of the population are the same

    They are not, the average person is idiosyncratic without any firm commitment to ideology beyond unconscious conditioning, those people are not liberals and are open to persuasion and that doesn’t require tolerance of liberalism

    Ideological liberals on the other hand are not persuadable, they are committed to the project of advancing capitalism and will kill me and you for a paycheck

    There is no advantage to our position in pretending liberalism holds any truths which is what toleration would require

    They do not tolerate our worldview and seek to undermine it at every level of society from the lowest internet forum to the halls of congress, we have to do the same to overcome that chilling effect

    • etsy [she/her, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      1 hour ago

      perhaps we have different definitions of tolerance here. by tolerance, I don’t mean coexistence, I mean not demonizing and considering irredeemable. I mean reeducation camps not execution. I mean recognizing the situationalism and contextualism of our current political climate and having some empathy.

      for the record, I never have thought people are ideologically consistent. even here, I actively see political scatter plots going off.