It depends. What is the footage of? If you’re watching someone get attacked, murdered, and/or raped and you don’t feel sick to your stomach I’d say something is wrong with you. If you’re watching a city being attacked and you don’t see casualties of war I’d understand if you don’t sympathize because you’re only seeing buildings being destroyed not the humans that are being affected. It’s hard for a lot of people to empathize unless they’ve gone through something similar. It’s still not great that you can’t put 2 and 2 together, but it’s not abnormal.
To be honest, I understand being happy that someone who spread so much hate was murdered. This is a person who vehemently believed that gay and trans people shouldn’t exist. I completely understand the hatred of this man, but he is a human being and a sentient being. We really shouldn’t be supporting the murder of other humans even if we hate their views. I will concede however that that may be the only way out of the mess we’re in.
There are more of us than there are of them and yet we’re still under the control of those that hate us. If they won’t play by the rules then violence is the only option we have left. I’d much prefer the peaceful option if it were an option, and I hope that sanity will return to the US soon.
I was so ready to fight you with that first half, not gonna lie. I’m very much so in the camp that Charlie Kirk no longer being alive is a good thing, however, I do think the way he died may be a bad thing in that it kinda makes him a martyr. I think one huge mistake that people make with things like this is to not recognize that truly evil people were indeed still human. The most evil humans to ever live in Imperial Japan’s Unit 731 needed to die by any means necessary, but they were still human.
I think that the belief that all humans are good or that all humans are bad is something that fundamentally distorts how we think about others, especially in political spaces. Humans aren’t innately morally aligned, work is put in to align anyone one way or another. People change, and, again, work must be put in to do so. All that to say that someone deserving death for how evil they are isn’t something easily determined, neither is it so black and white, nor can you ignore the potential for change. I think Charlie Kirk is a good example as I’m not really convinced he was reasonably unlikely to change versus someone like Nick Fuentes. However, the damage he has done to political discourse would be something difficult to overcome and can’t be ignored due to the scale. While I agree that him being dead is a net positive for humanity, I can’t agree with anyone saying it’s an easy slam-dunk determination to make.
Again, we shouldn’t support the murder of anyone or anything even if they deserve it. Regardless, I won’t judge anyone who wants people like Trump and Charlie Kirk to disappear. Many of us are just fighting for our right to exist. Republicans hate minorities, trans, gay, and anyone different from them and they are using ICE to attack anyone they deem different.
I’d much prefer if Trump were removed from office dishonorably and we appointed someone who could return sanity to the US. However, I won’t judge anyone wishing death on those that want them dead and have the power to make it so.
Again, we shouldn’t support the murder of anyone or anything even if they deserve it
Disagree, Hitler deserved to be bullied until he killed himself. But sure, the support for death when more peaceful methods have failed seems fine to me.
It depends. What is the footage of? If you’re watching someone get attacked, murdered, and/or raped and you don’t feel sick to your stomach I’d say something is wrong with you. If you’re watching a city being attacked and you don’t see casualties of war I’d understand if you don’t sympathize because you’re only seeing buildings being destroyed not the humans that are being affected. It’s hard for a lot of people to empathize unless they’ve gone through something similar. It’s still not great that you can’t put 2 and 2 together, but it’s not abnormal.
I watched the Kirk one and was honestly satisfied.
I felt absolutely nothing when I watched charlie Kirk get shot. Does that make me a bad person?
And I have never really seen many gore videos.
It gave me a jolt of joy and I won’t apologize for that.
the only thing I felt was “huh. looks like some movies are indeed realistic”
To be honest, I understand being happy that someone who spread so much hate was murdered. This is a person who vehemently believed that gay and trans people shouldn’t exist. I completely understand the hatred of this man, but he is a human being and a sentient being. We really shouldn’t be supporting the murder of other humans even if we hate their views. I will concede however that that may be the only way out of the mess we’re in.
There are more of us than there are of them and yet we’re still under the control of those that hate us. If they won’t play by the rules then violence is the only option we have left. I’d much prefer the peaceful option if it were an option, and I hope that sanity will return to the US soon.
I was so ready to fight you with that first half, not gonna lie. I’m very much so in the camp that Charlie Kirk no longer being alive is a good thing, however, I do think the way he died may be a bad thing in that it kinda makes him a martyr. I think one huge mistake that people make with things like this is to not recognize that truly evil people were indeed still human. The most evil humans to ever live in Imperial Japan’s Unit 731 needed to die by any means necessary, but they were still human.
I think that the belief that all humans are good or that all humans are bad is something that fundamentally distorts how we think about others, especially in political spaces. Humans aren’t innately morally aligned, work is put in to align anyone one way or another. People change, and, again, work must be put in to do so. All that to say that someone deserving death for how evil they are isn’t something easily determined, neither is it so black and white, nor can you ignore the potential for change. I think Charlie Kirk is a good example as I’m not really convinced he was reasonably unlikely to change versus someone like Nick Fuentes. However, the damage he has done to political discourse would be something difficult to overcome and can’t be ignored due to the scale. While I agree that him being dead is a net positive for humanity, I can’t agree with anyone saying it’s an easy slam-dunk determination to make.
What if they deserved it, like if someone was to execute trump on live TV?
Depends on how dehumanized they are in your head.
Again, we shouldn’t support the murder of anyone or anything even if they deserve it. Regardless, I won’t judge anyone who wants people like Trump and Charlie Kirk to disappear. Many of us are just fighting for our right to exist. Republicans hate minorities, trans, gay, and anyone different from them and they are using ICE to attack anyone they deem different.
I’d much prefer if Trump were removed from office dishonorably and we appointed someone who could return sanity to the US. However, I won’t judge anyone wishing death on those that want them dead and have the power to make it so.
Disagree, Hitler deserved to be bullied until he killed himself. But sure, the support for death when more peaceful methods have failed seems fine to me.
Oh boy don t make me dream like that
I feel like it’d be more thematically appropriate if he choked on a hamburger. Then he’s not exactly a martyr.
True, or fell down some stairs.