Here’s the thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/24345496
users from meanwhileongrad are banned from dbzer0, so you won’t be able to interact (which you shouldn’t be doing anyway)
Here’s the thread: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/24345496
users from meanwhileongrad are banned from dbzer0, so you won’t be able to interact (which you shouldn’t be doing anyway)
Death to the Republican party!
yeah that too
even though i agree with it
But I am saying death to the party, not members of the party. Calling for the Republican party to end doesn’t mean that the members of the Republican party need to end.
‘Death to Israel’ is not the same as ‘death to Israelis’.
No, you didn’t. Death to X is always ambiguous and can refer to anything, that’s why extremists use it. If you don’t want people to interpret Death to X as violent extremism, then you need to specify
Like how you already specified.
So when you agreed to him saying the Republican Party, and before his clarification, which way were you interpreting it?
Violence
Fascists get no mercy
If you believe this, why then do you have a problem with the phrase “death to Israel?” Zionism is a fascist ideology, and Israel is an ethno-supremacist project of Zionists.
I should note that I disagree with you. Calling for the death of all Republicans is just as wrong as calling for the death of all Israelis. I despise fascists, but I don’t want them all dead, I want them to face justice. Though the ambiguity of the phrase “death to Israel” does not bother me, as I think the context is usually more than enough to resolve that ambiguity.
Because there are innocent people in Israel
When you have an instance that actively allows antisemitism, such as users using zio- as a pejorative, or repeating antisemitic conspiracy theories such as zog, then the context doesn’t help solve ambiguity.
I agree with you partially about zog, as it’s an embellishment of the truth (that being that zionists excercise significant influence in US politics, but not a total occupation), but zio is just short for zionist. Using zio as a pejorative is no different from something like MAGAt. Sure, nazis use it as a pejorative against Jews, but it has a more narrow meaning. Nazis who use zio as a pejorative are engaging in the conflation of zionism and judaism, which you are aiding in when you accept the nazi premise that zio is a pejorative for jews, and which Israel benefits from as it enables them to weaponize antisemitism against critics of genocide.