Sweden knew Canada’s Marc Kennedy was a notorious cheater.

So they set up a camera at the ‘hog line’ to record it.

And caught him doing it at the Olympics.

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  • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
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    9 days ago

    Why do people win?

    Hey, I need fruit. I’m going to eat that fruit.

    Interaction happens. Choose your own adventure:

    FIGHT

    NO. I’M GOING TO EAT THIS FRUIT.

    Winner gets fruit. Survival of the fittest. Competition.

    Flight

    Yikes! I’ll go get other fruit. Hopefully.

    Hell yeah, fruit. I should get fruit that others found more often. That was easy.

    Hopefully there’s more fruit.

    Freeze

    Oh, holy shit holy shit holy shit please just take the fruit I don’t want to fight holy shit please don’t notice me.

    I really need that fruit and I really need to not get hurt what the fuck what the fuck what do I do?

    *Hell yeah, fruit. I should get fruit that others found more often. That was easy.

    Why are you still here? This is my fruit. Don’t come near my fruit.

    Probably gonna get hit at this point.

    Fawn

    YOU GOT IT! FRUIT’S ALL YOURS! Want me to get you more fruit? I can get you as much fruit as you want.

    Please don’t hit me.

    Sometimes you get hit. Sometimes you don’t. You’ll never know which is which, but at least you can keep gathering fruit.

    Even if you don’t get to keep all of it.

    Even if you don’t get to keep any of it.

    Friend

    There are a lot of thought possibilities here, and even more responses. I’m not gonna write a whole dialog tree (yet).

    • Oh, shit, this guy needs fruit. I wouldn’t like needing fruit. Hey, yeah, you can have this fruit. I can probably find more.

    • Oh shit, this guy needs fruit. Needing fruit sucked. I have a bunch of fruit. I can’t eat it all. Have some fruit.

    • Oh, shit, this guy needs fruit. No one should have to go without fruit. Hey, yeah, you can have some of this fruit; it’s not a ton but we can find more fruit together.*

    You cooperate. A society is formed.

    Fɪɢʜᴛ

    Nᴏ. I NEED Tʜɪꜱ Fʀᴜɪᴛ. Mʏ Fᴀᴍɪʟʏ NEEDS Tʜɪꜱ Fʀᴜɪᴛ. I ᴡɪʟʟ ɴᴏᴛ ʟᴇᴛ Yᴏᴜ ʜᴀᴠᴇ Tʜɪꜱ Fʀᴜɪᴛ.

    Could go either way. But, trying is the most important part. There’s not enough fruit for everyone. You owe it to yourself, to your family, to your community. You must compete.

    Fuck

    Sploosh

    • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
      2·
      9 days ago

      Why do people cheat?

      Taking someone else's fruit was a lot easier than finding fruit

      I’m just going to do that from now on. Take fruit. I’ll do anything I can to get better at taking fruit.

      If I can find more fruit, I'll have more fruit

      I should do anything I can to get better at finding fruit.

      If I have more fruit, then everyone has more fruit

      I should do anything I can to make there be more fruit.

      Lots of reasons. Lots of types of cheating. Steroids, rule bending, rule breaking. Lots of drives.

      • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
        2·
        9 days ago
        Why sports?

        Ok so like there are characters, internal voices, trains of thought, concepts flying around. Trying to organize.

        So, we have these dudes. There’s “Big” dude, who is all ALL THIS STUFF IS MINE, DO WHAT I SAY and then we have ʙɪɢ dude who is like “no”. And “Big” guy swings. And gets his ass handed to him in response.

        ʙɪɢ wins the fight. But didn’t like it. And doesn’t want to fight. And doesn’t even understand the need to fight at all because like he totally shares all his food and would rather just share. But he’s gonna have to fight again.

        So ʙɪɢ being a nerd is like, “hey, next guy who has to fight me, I won’t, like, actively try to kill you as long as you don’t actively try to kill me”.

        Yay. Sports.

        • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
          2·
          9 days ago
          Why do people sports?

          If there’s been an established need to be a winner of a fight, and you’d rather neither of you die, you need rules. An agreement. And penalties for not keeping the agreement. “Sorry, but just this one time I will be forced to go all out.” But, like, real. You beat the shit out of the other person. Still not enough to kill them. Probably. The first time.

          Why do people win sports?

          Even fighting with that caveat is still fucking awful. So, innovate. Find ways to not fight but still determine winner.

          Could be better technique. Could be more strength. Could be more accuracy. Could be more speed. Could be better rules. Could be better enforcement of the rules/agreement.

              • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
                2·
                9 days ago
                Why do people cheat to win?

                Winning is good. Winning means you’re better. If these drugs will make me better, I will use them. If this technique is better, and the rule against it is never enforced, I must use it. It is better. I must be better.

                • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
                  1·
                  9 days ago
                  Why do people cheat to win sports?

                  The previous, combined with a lack of understanding of the source of the rules of sport. Or combined with the understanding of the limits of enforcement within the sport.

                  The UFC “community” hellhole has several different takes on eye gouging.

                  • Eye gouging is dangerous and should be against the rules.
                  • Eye gouging is against the rules it just isn’t enforced
                  • Refs should start enforcing the eye gouging rule
                  • Eye gouging is illegal and he should be arrested
                  • it’s just a move and fighters can train to block it
                  • Everyone is eye gouging you’d be a fool not to
                  • If I can gouge eyes, I’m going to gouge eyes
                  • OF COURSE YOU HAVE TO EYE GOUGE, OTHERWISE YOU LOSE
                  • I HAVE TO EYE GOUGE HIM BECAUSE OTHERWISE HE’LL EYE GOUGE ME
                  • The fighters signed contracts waiving bodily harm, he has to be okay with this, he knew it was coming

                  These all support cheating. These all lead to lines of reasoning that support cheating.

                  The only take I haven’t come across is:

                  • Holy shit why would any sport ever need a formal rule about gouging someone’s eyes obviously that would never be okay in literally any circumstance that isn’t actual life or death how is this a recurring problem what the fuck is wrong with all of you you all deserve to die in a pit
                  • Sickos [they/them, it/its]@hexbear.netEnglish
                    1·
                    9 days ago

                    Why do people want to cheat to win at sports?

                    Everyone else is doing it

                    If this is true, adapt the rules. Sports are allowed to change.

                    They want to be better, more, to grow

                    Internal drive. Important, good. Placing more value on this than on the sport, not so much.

                    They want to be the best

                    Still not bad, from my perspective, because I feel this very deeply. I acknowledge that’s not a valid reason, “I feel this because I feel this”. It’s not at all a universal feeling or experience. Emotion, not logic.

                    They want to be better than everyone else

                    I swear this is different than the previous statement. Pride vs envy. Pride is good. Envy is bad.

                    They can get away with it

                    Blame the refs, blame the sport, blame the fans, blame whatever it takes to disown the conscious choice to cheat

                    They have to because everyone else is cheating

                    The response to a lack of enforcement of the rules is not to break the same rule yourself; that just propagates the problem.

                    The solution is to Eɴꜰᴏʀᴄᴇ the rules yourself. The rules no longer apply. There must be a Pᴇɴᴀʟᴛʏ. The Pᴇɴᴀʟᴛʏ is that THE RULES NO LONGER APPLY.

                    There must be a reminder of why the rules were put into place.

                    IF I DON'T CHEAT HE WILL

                    This is the most broken, problematic one. It’s lashing out in fear. It’s a complete misunderstanding of the purpose and benefits of sports.

                    Cheating is fun

                    Folks like getting away with things. Some part of the brain produces happy chemicals. People chase happy chemicals. Practically an addiction.