• panda_abyss@lemmy.ca
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    I’m more pissed about shows you can’t watch or buy.

    if you aren’t selling I can’t pay for it.

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      Making your IP available to purchase somewhere, somehow should be a requirement for maintaining copyright and trademark protection. Use it or lose it.

      Can’t claim you’re losing money from lost sales if you’re not even attempting to sell it in the first place!

      (Needs to be a bit more thought out than my half-baked plan, though. Because, otherwise, every IP owner who wants to park something without offering it for sale will put it up for sale in some obscure place at an extremely high price, just to technically qualify and preserve their copyright.)

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      Nothing pisses me off more than shows, movies, or games that you literally cannot buy with legitimate means yet every single time someone tries to preserve it they get in trouble with whoever holds the rights. It’s like bro, I am more than willing to pay for it if you’d let me. The reason people are trying to preserve your show, movie, or video game is literally because you won’t let us give you money for it and even when you do let us pay for it you make it worse on purpose to make more money (I.e. ads and subscription tiers)

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        Often this is because neither streaming nor selling physical media is “worth it” for the parent company. Setting up even a simplified BD release takes tons of money because it’s not as simple as the copyright owner taking ready to use final renditions and burning it to a disk, there’s a whole process that goes into taking the masters and getting the highest possible quality digital copies off them, encoding appropriately for the disks, etc., and that’s not even mentioning the physical production of the disks, cases, booklets, etc., and getting a distribution deal with the right sellers and so on. What seems like a no brainer “you have a product, I want to buy that product, sell me that product” isn’t so simple after all.

        Same goes for streaming albeit differently. The rights owner needs to create a streaming compatible release from the master (or sometimes even from the existing physical copy masters!), pay residuals after every playback, AND it has to bring new viewers to the platform for it to be profitable. Adding content just because existing users demand it - users who will 95-99% of the time will still stick with the platform even if they don’t get what they want - is not profitable, as it brings in no extra revenue.

        Then there’s licensing. A lot of TV shows and movies are stuck in perpetual licensing hell because even though the trademark and franchise ownership lies with one company, long term rights usage has been sold to third parties as a way to have the IP generate revenue. Foe example, Paramount didn’t start their own streaming for years because all their IP has been sold for 5-7 year terms to e.g. Netflix. Why start a platform if you can literally not put your own product there? Or take HBO - since all Warner Brothers licensing was done in 10 year exclusive blocks with SkyTV, HBO (Go, Max, Plus, etc.) literally couldn’t enter the UK market because ALL the content was licensed out to another company who was promised exclusive rights within the UK for that time period…

        I fully agree that going after piracy when you’re not willing to provide your content for legal procurement, is a bit hypocritical, and shouldn’t be a thing.

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          Setting up even a simplified BD release takes tons of money

          You’re triggering my Cyberpunk PTSD…