20 years ago, i guy i worked with was out of the Navy after doing his 4 years. he said aircraft carriers were the worst posting in the navy, that carriers were basically floating dysfunctional cities with stupid high crime (with routine attempts to downplay or cover up how bad it was & how involved the officer corps was), gang violence to control criminal enterprises ranging from drugs to coordinated, industrial theft, and just generally violent areas one should avoid to not get robbed or assaulted.
it seems like it had the culture of a densely populated island-based prison work camp with a complex system of trustees and furloughs. where the object was to do your job, stick to safe common areas, and stare directly forward/seeing nothing.
This is the same thing I have been told by someone who has been out for 4 years, like three weeks ago. Apparently the only thing that has gotten slightly better is that you have abit less of a chance of being outright battered.
But they literally had a secret pee hole on the side of the ship, because they weren’t allowed to leave their guard posts for any reason for like 6 straight hours.
That was the post-Vietnam US Navy. It was war-weary and out of control. There were spaces that officers did not dare to go.
They were putting bricks of heroin in body bags of KIAs to smuggle it back to the States. The military got rid of conscription for a reason.
In the Marines there was a string of 4 or so murders in the area of the base I lived at, I got jumped between two of them. The violence doesn’t stay over seas.
20 years ago, i guy i worked with was out of the Navy after doing his 4 years. he said aircraft carriers were the worst posting in the navy, that carriers were basically floating dysfunctional cities with stupid high crime (with routine attempts to downplay or cover up how bad it was & how involved the officer corps was), gang violence to control criminal enterprises ranging from drugs to coordinated, industrial theft, and just generally violent areas one should avoid to not get robbed or assaulted.
it seems like it had the culture of a densely populated island-based prison work camp with a complex system of trustees and furloughs. where the object was to do your job, stick to safe common areas, and stare directly forward/seeing nothing.
Trump did say he would send the criminals out of the country lmao!
This is the same thing I have been told by someone who has been out for 4 years, like three weeks ago. Apparently the only thing that has gotten slightly better is that you have abit less of a chance of being outright battered.
But they literally had a secret pee hole on the side of the ship, because they weren’t allowed to leave their guard posts for any reason for like 6 straight hours.
That was the post-Vietnam US Navy. It was war-weary and out of control. There were spaces that officers did not dare to go. They were putting bricks of heroin in body bags of KIAs to smuggle it back to the States. The military got rid of conscription for a reason.
the guy who told me this story graduated high school in 1997.
That is technically post-vietnam
we are all in a post-Street Sharks era of US Naval Doctrine.
oops
In the Marines there was a string of 4 or so murders in the area of the base I lived at, I got jumped between two of them. The violence doesn’t stay over seas.
Realistically, this is expected behavior when you have what are effectively a bunch of trained killers/child soldiers trapped in a box together