• WhoathereBub@lemmy.world
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      Nether of them are your friends. Fluxor seems a bit sketchy with their limited time cash grab of lifetime memberships, and GitHub history compression. Stoat is basically discord 8 years ago and is in the UK where age verification is law. It has time to change and their privacy policy doesn’t look great (they also collect information from you).

      Fluxor could be fine, I am just skeptical of it at the moment.

      Stoat is better than discord, but not by much.

      • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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        Fluxer has been in development for a while, it just only recently went public. Everything has to go public at some point. Judging something just because of that feels ignorant and kinda stupid

        Also literally every thing ever in the history of business. Has had initial investors of some descriptions. Again this feels insanely stupid to judge something because it’s trying to gather seed money.

        300k wasn’t even a lot of money. For what fluxer is trying to do it’s going to need millions and a steady inflow of cash.

        If anything the fact they didn’t try to get more money is a red flag.

        • VeganCheesecake@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          No, the red flag is being ‘self-hostable’, but trying to concentrate all your users in a central, non-federated, monetised instance.

          Also, we cannot verify how long they where in development because they squashed their git commits. There’s usually no good reason to do that.

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          https://movim.eu/

          It’s based on XMPP, which means it’s open-source, federated, and has E2EE in private chats. It also supports video calls, including in groups (which most other Discord alternatives have problems with).

          Also, there’s no phone number or even email requirement to sign up. You can set a recovery email, but you can skip that step during setup. Just pick a server, username, and password

          The main thing it’s missing right now is “places” aka what Discord calls servers/guilds. But they’re currently working to roll that feature out soon

        • chortle_tortle@mander.xyz
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          https://slrpnk.net/post/34490207

          haven’t gotten around to trying it myself. But the fact that it’s built on XMPP is cool, and I hate that that all these new clients seem to develop their own new standards rather than build off what already exists.

          Sounds like movim as a project has been around for a while, but recently moved to be more discord like in intention, so it’s picked up interest there.