Feel free to use this a megathread for the US/Israeli war on Iran.

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    7 hours ago

    More nukes are never good and the fact that rearming is on the table for most nations shows how awful the general state of international relations is. Obviously the biggest culprit for the state of affairs is the United State.

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      This is antiquated cold war nuke mysticism. We have seen with the Ukraine conflict that both sides having nukes closes off higher escalation options (which is good because the conflict is more contained and the U.S. is afraid to do quite as much direct, open terrorism not under Ukraine’s own flag). We have seen the DPRK stay safe and snug while RoK repeatedly tears their pedophile dictators apart in the streets for sport. Why shouldn’t we all have nukes? I can make a better argument to my government than you can make to me. 😁

      You want to denuclearize. Okay, I want a classless society. You want to know how we get there? Global one party nuclearized state.

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        Don’t need to waste my time talking to you because you like arguing not using dialectics to come to a new and better conclusion you’re more concerned with owning your opponents (in the truest sense of the word) than building a better a better world, you’re a symptom of the system you live in.

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          Dialectical materialism is unconcerned with morality, I don’t like nukes either, they freak me out, but if having some is necessary for people to not be terrorized then my feelings don’t matter.

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          Under the current circumstances encouraging people to get nukes should be a priority for their survival, since the US is not going to let them develop a civilian nuclear program anyways! Whether or not this is “bad” morally to you or it makes you scared is frankly irrelevant to me so I’m sorry if I didn’t respond on exactly the same terms. I’m trying to be constructive I promise mostly kinda and a little joking around. Let off some steam. Bro thinks he is Hegel

          I will add you probably live in a country with nukes and I don’t, which might explain my sense of urgency here! Maybe not just going based off fediverse stats

          Do I need to add why countries nuclearizing is important for dealing with climate change?