Feel free to use this a megathread for the US/Israeli war on Iran.

  • Count042@lemmy.ml
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    7 hours ago

    No, you’re not.

    You’re arguing by title to ignore the points made like a sophist. That is explicitly rude, while trying to pretend it isn’t.

    Bad faith responses deserve nothing other than the reflection of the rudeness they project.

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      7 hours ago

      I think we disagree.

      By the way, I’m from Russia, and we have our own “totally not authoritarian” head of just one branch of government.

      And the ayatollah - he’s effectively the head of all branches, while also having religious authority. It’s very hard to see any democracy here.

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        5 hours ago

        We don’t disagree. You are factually wrong. I’m not saying that it isn’t an authoritarian state. It absolutely is.but the simple fact of the matter is that the Ayatollah isn’t involved most decisions. His power mostly came into play with selecting who could run in their elections, which absolutely are real with the opposing sides running having significant political differences.

        Did he get to set the goal posts for their parties? Yes, absolutely, and that isn’t a full on true democracy. But the Iranian civilians have far far more say in their government than a civilian Russian, for example.

        Moreover, you’re debating all of this shit in ignorance to move the topic away from the fact the Iran didn’t have nukes SOLELY because the leader was religiously opposed to them. The religious leader the US and Israeli’s killed. While proving that they are unreliable negotiators.

        The only rational view at this point for the average Iranian is to demand nukes.

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          4 hours ago

          You told me that Iran was covertly enriching uranuim , despite the will of ayatollah, because there are factions in Iran.

          If that’s your point, then I disagree with you, because of all the power ayatollah had. I think he knew, if not ordered it.

          (By the way, I’m not defending the USA & Israel war intervention. Nor am I enamoured with Iranian leadership.)