It feels like topics I used to only see on r/conspiracy—like Epstein and the deep state—are now all over mainstream subreddits.

The US is doing what it always has done, only now the pretexts are weaker than ever. Did things really have to get this obvious before people finally realized that western governments only care about what’s best for the oligarchy?

  • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    Can someone set me straight on Pizzagate? Like, sure what it evolved into was BS, with people storming a pizza parlor looking for non-existent basements. But… I mean fuck, look at the emails in the Epstein files, compare them with the Podesta emails…

    Are we really trying to say that “pizza” WASN’T being used as code between high-profile individuals in Washington? People still bring up Pizzagate as if it were all conspiracy nonsense, but I’m sitting here reading actual emails between grown adults high up in politics who are salivating over the thought of sharing fresh, young pizza and being VERY particular about the toppings. Not to mention the other foods that are talked about in a similar batshit crazy way (jerky, tuna/sushi, pink/black shrimp, etc.).

    Normal people do not talk about food like this. And at its core, wasn’t Pizzagate about high-profile individuals using pizza as a code to traffic children? While there is no smoking gun (yet) that proves pizza and other foods were 100% code for children… Come on. It’s clear they AREN’T just talking about food. And it’s all found smack dab in the middle of a global conspiracy that has a focus on trafficking minors!!

    So, again, someone tell me WHY we’re still treating Pizzagate as completely debunked nonsense? The specifics at the end were wrong and the whole movement was likely taken over by controlled opposition by the end of things. But the core conspiracy? Are we just pretending there’s nothing there? Are people so disgusted by the idea that they are just preferring to call it debunked when it really hasn’t been? Has the opposition been successful in proliferating the narrative that only conspiracy theorists believe Pizzagate, and nothing conspiracy theorists believe is real? Why the fuck aren’t we talking about this more?!

    I bring this up and people act like all they heard and saw was television static. How does this keep getting memory holed?!