You’ve ignored the real point of my comment and just focused on the one part I put there as an after thought.
When I said you’re not affect as much as I am, I meant in the sense that you’re a tiny bit better off. You’re going to very much affected by this when the price of literally everything goes up. The fuel prices rising have added less than $30 a month to my budget. That’s how much “better off” you are than me.
And as an aside it’s a very privileged stance to say it’s “time to start thinking long term” I, like many people, are nowhere close to being in the position to be buying an EV.
Also, it’s not really the subject of the conversation I care about, it’s frustration with your ability to actually understand and listen to point I’m trying to make. You continually miss the actual points of this conversation. You’ve done it again here by saying you choosing an EV “right now” as if the price of everything else rising will not effect you. You’re barely barely better of than those without EVs.
To reiterate one more time, the point of what I’ve said is that fossil fuels are such a necessary part of all levels of industry that your personal choice to use an EV will not save you from the effect that the price of fossil fuels rising will have on the price of everything in all industries reliant on fossil fuels will cause.
To simplify if you still haven’t understood: gas price rise, farming price rise, farming price rise, food price rise. Gas price rise, delivery price rise, delivery price rise, food price rise. Shopping container fuel price rise, internationally shipped goods price rise, internationally shipped goods price rise, food price rise. Gas price rise, construction price rise, construction price rise, house price rise. Etcetera etcetera, for every level of industry that we both rely upon.
If you want to save money, avoid fossil fuels as much as you possibly can. In the long run it will pay off. People like me chose EVs knowing there would more more fossil fuel wars, so when this latest one happened, we were ready. If the entire transportation industry did the same, we’d all be better off financially. Immunity to fossil fuel wars is a blessing. Act now, thank me in the coming years. Cheers!
Are you purposefully being this obtuse? The point is that we can’t avoid fossil fuels because all of the industries we rely on use them. Getting farmers to change the billions upon billions of heavy machines run off of diesel will take decades upon decades. I’m talking 50 to a hundred years here.
I can’t avoid other people using fossil fuels to farm, store, and transport the food that I eat. And that is not going to be changed for decades on decades.
And again, since your reading comprehension is so poor, I am not in a position where I can personally avoid fossil fuels.
You’re not escaping the price of food and everything else rising because you have an EV and avoid fossil fuels where you can.
I really don’t think I can dumb down any more for you. I think I’m done here. I might check in again when the economic collapse due to oil prices rising happens so I can say I told you so though.
Again you’re changing my words from “minimizing” and “avoid fossil fuels as much as possible” to “avoid fossil fuels” (altogether). And you spew out insults like a hose. Typical behaviour from an online fossil fuel proponent or troll. But don’t worry, good jobs and investments outside the fossil fuels industry are plentiful so as the transition progresses, you won’t be left out. Cheers.
You can’t minimise other people’s fossil fuel use then. It’s like you’ve never heard of paraphrasing before. I didn’t change the meaning at all.
I’m not a proponent of fossil fuels, I would love to move away from fossil fuels entirely. Pointing out your poor reading comprehension isn’t really an insult of its factually true, you continue to miss the point. But as I’ve said the reason I don’t have an EV is because I’m not in a position where I could possibly get one, I would have an EV if I was.
What I have been doing this whole time, what you have missed again is the fact that I am talking about the effect of rising oil prices will have on you regardless of your personal choices. That’s it, that’s the point here. you will be effected whether you have an EV or not why can you not get it through your thick skull that that is the point I’m making. It’s not about personal choices it’s not about the far far future where humanity might have moved beyond fossil fuels. It’s about right now where you will be affected.
Don’t worry dude, as soon as the fossil fuel industry stops their propaganda trying to convince you that you can’t live without them, renewables will be all over. Patience, we’ll get there. 😉
You’re like a child putting their hands over your ears saying “la la la la la.”
I’ve never said we couldn’t live without them, I’m saying right now our lives and industries are so entrenched with them right now that in the immediate short term we are all going to be affected by the oil price rising for a multitude of reasons.
But you’re just going to ignore the actual points that I make and talk about the hypothetical future that’s irrelevant to right now.
I only come here to read your childish insults. I must say, you do not disappoint! Keep it going!
The fact that you write so much to me, thinking your anti-transition propaganda will get you anywhere, or that you’re teaching me something I haven’t already known for decades, is amusing. 👍
The fact that you can’t grasp that I’m not “anti-transition” is astounding. I’m very pro transition to renewables, I would absolutely love to move completely away from fossil fuels. But what you still haven’t been able to grasp is that I’m talking about is the rising oil price is going to affect you whether you have an EV or not. It’s going to affect you right now because of how much our society relies on fossil fuels right now.
But you’re going to ignore my actual point again, aren’t you. You have no actual argument so you just won’t acknowledge the fact that rising oil prices will infact effect you whether you own an EV or not.
You’ve ignored the real point of my comment and just focused on the one part I put there as an after thought.
When I said you’re not affect as much as I am, I meant in the sense that you’re a tiny bit better off. You’re going to very much affected by this when the price of literally everything goes up. The fuel prices rising have added less than $30 a month to my budget. That’s how much “better off” you are than me.
And as an aside it’s a very privileged stance to say it’s “time to start thinking long term” I, like many people, are nowhere close to being in the position to be buying an EV.
Also, it’s not really the subject of the conversation I care about, it’s frustration with your ability to actually understand and listen to point I’m trying to make. You continually miss the actual points of this conversation. You’ve done it again here by saying you choosing an EV “right now” as if the price of everything else rising will not effect you. You’re barely barely better of than those without EVs.
To reiterate one more time, the point of what I’ve said is that fossil fuels are such a necessary part of all levels of industry that your personal choice to use an EV will not save you from the effect that the price of fossil fuels rising will have on the price of everything in all industries reliant on fossil fuels will cause.
To simplify if you still haven’t understood: gas price rise, farming price rise, farming price rise, food price rise. Gas price rise, delivery price rise, delivery price rise, food price rise. Shopping container fuel price rise, internationally shipped goods price rise, internationally shipped goods price rise, food price rise. Gas price rise, construction price rise, construction price rise, house price rise. Etcetera etcetera, for every level of industry that we both rely upon.
If you want to save money, avoid fossil fuels as much as you possibly can. In the long run it will pay off. People like me chose EVs knowing there would more more fossil fuel wars, so when this latest one happened, we were ready. If the entire transportation industry did the same, we’d all be better off financially. Immunity to fossil fuel wars is a blessing. Act now, thank me in the coming years. Cheers!
Are you purposefully being this obtuse? The point is that we can’t avoid fossil fuels because all of the industries we rely on use them. Getting farmers to change the billions upon billions of heavy machines run off of diesel will take decades upon decades. I’m talking 50 to a hundred years here.
I can’t avoid other people using fossil fuels to farm, store, and transport the food that I eat. And that is not going to be changed for decades on decades.
And again, since your reading comprehension is so poor, I am not in a position where I can personally avoid fossil fuels.
You’re not escaping the price of food and everything else rising because you have an EV and avoid fossil fuels where you can.
I really don’t think I can dumb down any more for you. I think I’m done here. I might check in again when the economic collapse due to oil prices rising happens so I can say I told you so though.
Again you’re changing my words from “minimizing” and “avoid fossil fuels as much as possible” to “avoid fossil fuels” (altogether). And you spew out insults like a hose. Typical behaviour from an online fossil fuel proponent or troll. But don’t worry, good jobs and investments outside the fossil fuels industry are plentiful so as the transition progresses, you won’t be left out. Cheers.
You can’t minimise other people’s fossil fuel use then. It’s like you’ve never heard of paraphrasing before. I didn’t change the meaning at all.
I’m not a proponent of fossil fuels, I would love to move away from fossil fuels entirely. Pointing out your poor reading comprehension isn’t really an insult of its factually true, you continue to miss the point. But as I’ve said the reason I don’t have an EV is because I’m not in a position where I could possibly get one, I would have an EV if I was.
What I have been doing this whole time, what you have missed again is the fact that I am talking about the effect of rising oil prices will have on you regardless of your personal choices. That’s it, that’s the point here. you will be effected whether you have an EV or not why can you not get it through your thick skull that that is the point I’m making. It’s not about personal choices it’s not about the far far future where humanity might have moved beyond fossil fuels. It’s about right now where you will be affected.
Don’t worry dude, as soon as the fossil fuel industry stops their propaganda trying to convince you that you can’t live without them, renewables will be all over. Patience, we’ll get there. 😉
You’re like a child putting their hands over your ears saying “la la la la la.”
I’ve never said we couldn’t live without them, I’m saying right now our lives and industries are so entrenched with them right now that in the immediate short term we are all going to be affected by the oil price rising for a multitude of reasons.
But you’re just going to ignore the actual points that I make and talk about the hypothetical future that’s irrelevant to right now.
I only come here to read your childish insults. I must say, you do not disappoint! Keep it going!
The fact that you write so much to me, thinking your anti-transition propaganda will get you anywhere, or that you’re teaching me something I haven’t already known for decades, is amusing. 👍
The fact that you can’t grasp that I’m not “anti-transition” is astounding. I’m very pro transition to renewables, I would absolutely love to move completely away from fossil fuels. But what you still haven’t been able to grasp is that I’m talking about is the rising oil price is going to affect you whether you have an EV or not. It’s going to affect you right now because of how much our society relies on fossil fuels right now.
But you’re going to ignore my actual point again, aren’t you. You have no actual argument so you just won’t acknowledge the fact that rising oil prices will infact effect you whether you own an EV or not.