On Piers Morgan Uncensored, Schlapp was part of a panel discussion about the war in Iran and the bombing of the girls’ school that killed an estimated 175 people (nearly all young children). Journalist Peter Beinart argued to host Morgan that the United States and Israel were to blame even if the school was somehow hit by an Iranian missile.
“We know that if the U.S. and Israel had not attacked a country that poses no serious threat to them—Israel has hundreds of nuclear weapons, America has thousands—that those girls would be alive,” Beinart said. Schlapp immediately jumped in.
“They’d be alive in a burqa,” Schlapp said, adding “this is … a barbaric society,” before Morgan cut in and asked him to “hang on.”
I mean, I get what he was trying to say and where he’s coming from, and it’s still a fucked up and horrible take.
Is the Iranian regime totalitarian and ruthless, especially to women? Yes.
Did the US/Israel explode a bunch of school children? Yes.
These are both wrong and neither justifies the other. Exploded school children is a really bad time to interject with “whataboutisms”.
He means what he means which is better dead than alive in a burka. How do you get where he is coming from. Also irsn do not require a burka which hide everything minus the eyes
I get the “logic” point he was trying to make. He’s trying to say that “repression of women’s rights is bad, mmmmkay” (which is really fucking rich coming from a fascist). Bringing it up as a “whataboutism” during a conversation about killing children is disgusting and deplorable.
Again his logic is : it is better for girls to be dead then be forced to use a burka.
I don’t think that’s exactly what he was saying but what he was doing isn’t much better.
Again, I’m not defending that fascist. His take, in any interpretation, is disgusting.
It is
It quite literally is what he’s saying
Maybe we should ask them instead of having white people assume what they want.
Oh wait
Have you ever considered that you don’t actually know how “ruthless” Iran is to women and all you know about it is Western propaganda? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uG5ap8QSBlA
Did you link the right video? How is a walkthrough of the National archive in Iran related to oppressing woman?
Forgive my ignorence if does somehow obviously proove something.
Yes it’s the right video. In fact it’s a video I just randomly selected because all the videos of people walking through Iran are like this.
What do you see in the video?
As with rape and domestic abuse, I prefer to listen to and believe the victims, not the media propaganda from either side.
“I prefer to listen to the testimonies of the prosecution and nothing from the defense.”
You are deaf to the propaganda you are consuming.
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Thanks for the Wikipedia links. I’ll look into them.
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What do any of those have to do with women in Iran? I don’t think it was ever in question that Western lies and propaganda exist.
Long sentence to say you didn’t watch the video.
You are correct, I did not. In order to avoid exposure to propaganda one needs to evaluate the source and the context for the material prior to consumption. Did I miss something relevant, insightful and informative in this particular instance? Maybe. It’s a small price that I am willing to pay.
Translation: “I have locked down my mind like a demilitarized zone in order to avoid taking in any information that might conflict with the things I’ve already decided are true”
No, just that I try not to click on random YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, Xitter, etc. when provided as “proof” because they tend to be shit. I do the same with comments from MAGA fascists.
If you (as in someone, not you specifically) want me to educate myself on something I might be ignorant about, tell me to look into that subject. Maybe provide one or to specific item to look into if you want, though not necessary, and let me go at it. Sending a single “gotcha” video or a video of some random influencer vomiting propaganda through the screen isn’t going cut it. Single sourcing is a fast tract to propaganda brainwashing.
Totalitarianism as a concept was invented after WWII to equivalate fascism & communism. It’s anticommunist agitprop, a product of the Cold War.
No one’s going to deny that the Islamic Republic of Iran isn’t a model for gender equality, but 1) it’s not as bad as what our government & media claim, and 2) the only reason you bring it up at all is because of the last 25 years of Western propaganda, which began the moment its comprador Sha was overthrown. There are plenty of other states with worse treatment of women that our government & media seldom mention, because they’re not thorns in the side of imperialist states.
You’re doing the women being bombed right now no favors by parroting the bombers’ propaganda. It’s same bone-headed logic as condemning Hamas in the middle of a genocide.
Nothing is said in the video. It’s someone walking through Iran. Which makes your entire narrative fall apart without any words.
I like to say that liberals subscribe to the cooties theory of ideas, but that’s just not how propaganda works.
Can you watch videos or am I talking to an LLM?
I am indeed Leisuresuit Larry Man.
Ignorance is not strength. If you’re so confident in your political stance you’d be able to identify the fallacies used in propaganda against it and not have to stick your head in the sand and avoid anything that might challenge your worldview in the slightest.
If every time I watched liberal/conservative media it threw me into a crisis regarding my socialist beliefs I wouldn’t be a socialist no matter how hard I claim to be.
The victims you’ve never actually heard from, only propaganda from one side
Come on man, this is some “the women and girls of Afghanistan” shit, and you should not be falling for it so easily