• woelkchen@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Gasoline in the EV? That is the worst combination.

    No true. That’s way more efficient than hydrogen and the gasoline could be substituted by ethanol.

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      2 days ago

      Hybrids are perhaps worse than both ICE and EV. More complex, burns more than the other two, still consumes a shit ton of oil and pollutes a lot. Ethanol has also its problems, like how does one get it in enough quantity. Why do you think we are not driving ethanol cars today?

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        12 hours ago

        Why do you think we are not driving ethanol cars today?

        because oil, and gas companies pay government to keep you their bitches.

        Many countries, like Brazil, run cars on pure ethanol, and this makes it a competition to gasoline, which gas companies hate. Over 83% of new car sales in Brazil are flex-fuel vehicles (FFVs) capable of running on any blend of ethanol (E100) and gasoline. While the majority of vehicles are capable of using high-percentage ethanol, actual consumption varies, with nearly all gasoline in Brazil currently blended with 27% to 30% anhydrous ethanol.

        And ethanol engines run cooler, and last longer because they burn much cleaner.

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          9 hours ago

          That’s certainly a part of the reason. But I guess a bigger issue is ethanol production where you’d need large fields for “growing” ethanol instead of food. And lastly, it still produces co2.

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        Yes a hybrid is more complex but less so than hydrogen because the engineering problems of hydrogen haven’t yet been fully solved (storage that doesn’t use more space than battery or tank).

        It’s an upgraded ice.

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        2 days ago

        Hybrids are perhaps worse than both ICE and EV.

        EV with range extender is not hybrid. You keep confirming that you don’t really know what you’re talking about.

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          Range extender doesn’t make sense which is while serial hybrids died out for cars. At the rpms where gas is most efficient, it’s better to drive the wheels directly with the ice than waste energy converting it to electricity with a generator and back into motion with the ev motors.

          That’s what all hybrids do today.

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            1 day ago

            also doesn’t pollute, right?

            You make no sense. Of course a range extender pollutes but it’s an edge case only for very long distance drives.

            Manufacturing hydrogen is way more energy intensive and pollutes much more.

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              1 day ago

              In what way hydrogen manufacturing pollutes much more assuming we are talking about green h2? Sure renewables have a pollution cost associated with manufacturing but I really don’t think the end result is much more pollution. Even less so in the cities in resulting co2 and pmN emissions.

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                12 hours ago

                In what way hydrogen manufacturing pollutes much more assuming we are talking about green h2?

                Because it takes grid electricity to store, and it takes Diesel trucks to move around. Green H2 is not green, even with electrolysis, it would be more efficient to just use the electricity.

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                  9 hours ago

                  Grid electricity can be from renewables including h2, trucks can be either electric or hydrogen. 🤷