We’re not going to agree, here. You’re coming at this from “any harm is suffering, no matter what” and I’m coming at this from a viewpoint of “maximum harm reduction, minus One Bad Day, for sustenance purposes.” In your eyes there is no “ethical meat” and in my eyes small farms with loving caretakers are fine.
But you know what? We both want to see factory farms eliminated and we both want animals to live happy lives. Let’s start with that. We can still make progress, and a better world is possible.
Takes good care of their animals, until they’re no longer profitable and are ready to be humanely shot in the head at a quarter of their lifespan.
But sure, taking issue with that means I need therapy.
I specifically said equating meat to zoophilia is insane. Veganism is fine. You do you.
Still seek therapy, though. It helps most people.
It’s not insane, though. Both actions unnecessarily bring pain and suffering to the animals for the sake of sensory pleasure. It’s fucked up.
We’re not going to agree, here. You’re coming at this from “any harm is suffering, no matter what” and I’m coming at this from a viewpoint of “maximum harm reduction, minus One Bad Day, for sustenance purposes.” In your eyes there is no “ethical meat” and in my eyes small farms with loving caretakers are fine.
But you know what? We both want to see factory farms eliminated and we both want animals to live happy lives. Let’s start with that. We can still make progress, and a better world is possible.
Sure, but don’t fool yourself. Almost all livestock in the United States is factory-farmed, and it ain’t too different in other developed countries.
Ah, you’re right. Guess there’s no use in trying. Thank you, have a nice day