• lb_o@lemmy.world
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    Anyone can call to negotiation as much as they want, the reality is that Russia does not negotiate in good faith.

    It only intensifies bombing of Ukrainian cities, and sending “signals” by striking civilian infrastructure exactly during the negotiations.

    If politician does not see it, he is either stupid or affiliated with Russia and acting in its interest.

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      All he said is that Europe should be part of négociations, and he clarifies this multiple times

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      i advise you to go yourself to the frontline or send some of your dearest family members or friends to fight because diplomacy is not the way to solve it as long as it’s not you who’s dying, is it?

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        Fighting for one’s own life instead of been captured and killed by the barbaric occupants is the only option for those defending themselves.

        The choice of prolonging the war (and the choice to start the occupation in the first place) has never been made by Ukraine. It is putler’s regime, putler’s Russia - that has had these decisions at hand.

        You are full of yourself. And full of putler’s agenda, it seems. Or just delusional, maybe?

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          I’m not on putlers agenda, as much as you would like me to be. I speak as a war child, which you are obviously not. The one who is propagating to prolonging the war are people who are enjoying their comfortable lives far away from the frontlines, keyboard warriors as you wish. Ask the Ukrainians if they want to die in a war, dont decide for them. I see many of them around me in their prime who chose to run rather to fight. Neither they nor probably russians want to die.

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            Neither they nor probably russians want to die.

            The Russians don’t have to die. All they need to do for that is to fuck off out of Ukraine and live a healthy, happy life at home.

            As for the Ukrainians: I don’t recall anyone from safe Europe forcing Zelenskyy at gunpoint to make his people fight. They want to defend their motherland, they want our help.

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              21 hours ago

              agree on russians, they could fuck of, sure.as for the ukrainians, that would be Boris Johnson that told him to fight, and the Biden. Both of them are gone, furthermore US doing business with russians nowadays. Your arguments are naive on a reddit level.

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                17 hours ago

                Ah, the good old story about Boris Johnson intervening a peace deal that was more or less ready to be signed…

                Sorry, that’s bullcrap. Has been in 2022, when that story was first floated through the various pro-Russian info vectors, and still is today. The main thing ending the negotiations was the emergence of the Bucha massacre. Also, Russia was at no point ready to withdraw from Ukraine, a condition that Zelenskyy has made clear again and again for years as a baseline for Ukrainian approval of a deal.

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        Wut? Since when Belgia fights on the front line? I don’t get your logic

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          the logic is that people who never experienced war or want to experience it are the first ones who want to prolong the war and ignore diplomacy.