• lumpenproletariat@quokk.au
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    Both are bad, neither is worse than the US.

    Just going by invasions and regime changes alone the US takes the cake. That’s before you get into the spreading crack into black communities, chemical weapons on civilians, drone strikes on children, ecological destruction, genocide enabling, etc etc.

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      i hate defending the US because it has had more direct bad impact on my life but by measure of lost life i’d still argue modern Russia is worse, and if we lump current China to not even that long ago China the numbers killed are not even close

      the scale of China’s population just blows it all out of proportion

      Nazi Germany wasn’t even the worst genocide of its time (what a putrid statement though true)

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        by measure of lost life i’d still argue modern Russia is worse

        Idk what lost life you’re counting, because it’s pretty well known that civilian casualties in just the Iraq war most likely dwarf Ukrainian losses.

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      21 hours ago

      By numbers US is probably worse but the level of cruelty from Russia is unmatched outside of terrorist organizations

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        Would it really be tho?

        Like the US targets children and social gatherings to attack, tortures/rapes/murders innocent civilians in black sites, keeps a racial based underclass who they hook on drugs, violently assault from childhood, and lock up in record numbers to serve as legal slave labour. That’s pretty fucking cruel stuff.

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          5 hours ago

          All true but I never seen videos o people being killed by sledgehammer to the head or castrated in cold blood with a blunt knife coming from the US.

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          12 hours ago

          Also invades small countries on whim, votes against the well-being of humankind, meddle in other countries’ affairs, has been in war for more than 90% of it’s existence, never held itself accountable, experiments on its own citizens, and is ruled by a cabal of paedophiles.