also following PUTINS lead, considering this was the pretext of lifting sanctions russian oil.
O.K. call me super nieve but and I mean a HUGE BUT, what if it became an actual working democracy? I know it sounds absolutely coo coo insane-o-style but a democracy with rules for the almost but not quite equal capitalism we once had. A regulated capitalism that doesn’t squash indevidual , independent voice. Or smother it with Hush money.
You are probably not aware that in the 1950 they were on a good way and the usa and britain overthrew their elected government and installed the radical regime because democratic Iran wanted to sell their oil by themselves? (Very shortend version, please search for details and nuances by yourself)
Yeah the US shouldnt be there but neither should the ayatollah and the council of clerics.
iran was a democracy prior to the SHAH which was installed by the UK/US. the islamic revolution /current regime is more or less US’s fault.
You’re just hoping for Iran to develop a better functioning democracy than the US after it was “bombed back to the stone ages”?
That IS super nieve.
I’m not sure if you are being sarcastic, but democracy and capitalism are fundamentally incompatible. “Equal capitalism” is an oxymoron.
They said “almost” and would be accurate in that sense of using the same means just applied, explosives, to reach the speed of light, as material.
Israel is the enemy of all humanity. Earth will not be in peace until these religious lunatics are destroyed.
Including the ones in the whitehouse
I remember them saying and acting like Iraq was always a place of poor literacy, conflict, and poverty and a stone age culture.
Without ever acknowledging that this was basically the point (which many said in the lead up to the war in 2002) of the Iraq war.
Oh god who let .ml and hexbear into these comments
they can smell russia/china criticism and they come like rabid dogs.
Muting those instances made Lemmy a lot more pleasant. Highly recommended
And thus, debate is dead, and your cozy bubble is formed. I get banning troll users, but banning a whole instance is a step towards killing what the federation is supposed to stand for.
Nope, it’s the best decision I made. I don’t want to debate extremists that start insulting me as soon as a I don’t agree with all of their takes.
And btw at least with my client/instance, banning an instance doesn’t ban the users, so you can still interact with them on other instances.
Edit: And I don’t want to generalise, I’m sure there are .ml users that are fine. But I’ve had enough bad interactions with them that it warrants an instance ban.
the only other .ml that isnt politicals just engage in tech content like they are supposed to. somehow tankies co-opted .ml as a political haven, might have something to do with a tankie developer though.
That’s no debate with insincerity, only a platform for lies.
Can’t debate a bot.
There’s a difference between debating and toxic fascism
These people want no debates or opinions they dont agree with… They cant stand it.
They want that bubble because it makes sense to them. The world becomes simple.
Do you even know what you’re talking about?
There’s a dumb dumb feddit and world user but I actually don’t see any tankie comments here lol
Nah legit, the anti-tankie brigade puts out their delusion before the tankies even show… every time
Also the USA
Why does everyone hate us? We are good people, nice people, nobody should hate us!
Hate the government and the people who support it, not all Americans!
This is the way
Everyone means your leaders, not you. I think.
We totally never hurt anyone or ever intended yo hurt any.
Its a war of extermination.
Yes but some of them chanted Death to America – completely uncalled for – so what goes around comes around
Those chants were pretty epic. Also they have some nice anti-USA murals like this one:
Gotta admit that mural is pretty fire.
مرك بر آمريكا - “mrk br amrika”
anybody knows what it means?
Marg bar Âmrikâ - It’s a declaration of their love towards Amerikkka
All they are doing is creating generations of future enemies.
Bold of you to assume the US and Israel will last generations in their current forms.
The Nazis didn’t create generations of future enemies for Germany.
which is why authoritarians in thier last grasp of power, is trying everything to distract thier own population, and others from an internal uprising.
No country lasts generations in a static form. That’s not a thing.
but they will be poor and potentially malnutrition and potentially civil warring for the foreseeable future.
At least that seems to be the hope
one thousand new hamas’es, so they can continue to have someone to point to while they do their genocides
They don’t need hamas to commit genocide. See e.g. the west bank. They will find an excuse anyway, at least hamas actually puts up a resistance.
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Why on earth would they not want death to the west? It’s not like we haven’t deserved it. Israel is way more extreme than either Hamas or Hezbollah. That’s what happens when you create an ethnostate, arm them to the teeth, and back them unconditionally for generations.
I take some slogans everyday instead of death and destruction.
regardless of what anyone might think of Iran, this is evil
What anyone thinks of Iran should pale in comparison to what they think of the US. Truly the most evil nation since Nazi Germany.
did you forget Russia exists? or China?
not to get all tankie on you, but China has thus far managed to restrain themselves from bombing other countries’ civilian populations.
dude spend two min googling ‘Chinese atrocities from 1900’
like again I really don’t want to frame this like the US is the good guy, the US is not, but as a matter of scale currently China is still worse
China has been worse than Nazi Germany
all that said, US is trying real hard to be #1 in something again so yay!
fuck I hate this
Do explain how China has been worse than Nazi Germany, sounds like delusion.
dude spend two min googling ‘Chinese atrocities from 1900’
Ok, I did that exact thing verbatim, and the entire first page of results are things that happened before anyone here was born.
I’m not about to claim they’re saintly in any way, for sure they have lots of well-documented internal issues with civil liberties, free speech, and oppression of minority groups, but the fact that you’re going so far into the past to make your case just makes it a case in support of the opposite view.
You mean the two countries tied for 3rd place in the most evil country competition?
recency bias and the US outsized reputation makes it seem that I’m sure but lol if you think this is true
we’re just more free to complain about it, probably not for much longer though
so if you think it’s bad now buckle up and I say this as a generational casualty of US colonialism
Its not receny bias. The US didnt just turn evil in Jan 2025.
How are are all those black prisoners working in privatised prisons doing by the way?
China has 4 times the population as the US, yet the US still has the largest prison population on Earth.
Slavery never ended in america.
Land of the free my hole. Its literally the least free country on the planet.
who said anything about 2025? even if you want to peg the US evil starting with Nixon (which isn’t perfectly true as we were war profiteering in ww1/2) that’s recent, the US is a baby nation
now you’re just throwing strawman arguments, I don’t support any of this shit the US is currently doing, it’s just stupid to think China hasn’t done worse in the last century, isn’t doing equally evil shit now
Both are bad, neither is worse than the US.
Just going by invasions and regime changes alone the US takes the cake. That’s before you get into the spreading crack into black communities, chemical weapons on civilians, drone strikes on children, ecological destruction, genocide enabling, etc etc.
By numbers US is probably worse but the level of cruelty from Russia is unmatched outside of terrorist organizations
Would it really be tho?
Like the US targets children and social gatherings to attack, tortures/rapes/murders innocent civilians in black sites, keeps a racial based underclass who they hook on drugs, violently assault from childhood, and lock up in record numbers to serve as legal slave labour. That’s pretty fucking cruel stuff.
Also invades small countries on whim, votes against the well-being of humankind, meddle in other countries’ affairs, has been in war for more than 90% of it’s existence, never held itself accountable, experiments on its own citizens, and is ruled by a cabal of paedophiles.
i hate defending the US because it has had more direct bad impact on my life but by measure of lost life i’d still argue modern Russia is worse, and if we lump current China to not even that long ago China the numbers killed are not even close
the scale of China’s population just blows it all out of proportion
Nazi Germany wasn’t even the worst genocide of its time (what a putrid statement though true)
by measure of lost life i’d still argue modern Russia is worse
Idk what lost life you’re counting, because it’s pretty well known that civilian casualties in just the Iraq war most likely dwarf Ukrainian losses.
50+million chinese people and the ughyger genocided people would like to have a word with you.
israel hae to make sure they weren’t out evillled (?) be iran
I wish israel will be put in huge gas chamber.
Zionists, the word is zionists.
They also bombed the largest factory producing anti-cancer drugs and other medical facilities.
More than 600 schools have also been hit.
The USSA is as bad as the Shitraeli genociders.
Absolute monsters.The United States of ISISrael
Good way to ensure that whatever regime rises from the ashes will be even more backwards than the last.
I mean, that is their goal.
If anything, I think this will motivate the government to build even more.
Ideas are more powerful than weapons. They don’t want their enemies to have weapons, why would they allow them to have ideas?
Science is also how they can cause such devastation. Maybe all you scientists should stop empowering the assholes who murder people?
Science didn’t put assholes in control. It is the anti science US, anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers who put them in.
But science builds the machines of war. Science unlocks the power inevitably used by those leaders to make war. Scientists are not free from responsibility just because they don’t pull the trigger. They enable the building of the entire gun. At what point to scientists say ‘no more’ and refuse to continue to empower these leaders?
no one is going to put up with you advocating genocide
Your legs must be very strong to have made such a great leap in reasoning.
you are blaming scientist in a thread about a research hospital being blown up
if you don’t like be called out, stop being an edgy little bitch
smarmy comments in the face of an institution like this being destroyed is supporting genocide
Who made the bombs, the targetting systems, the deliver mechanisms, refined the chemicals, built the manufacturing systems, built the guidance systems, the satellites, the cameras, the entire technological logistics systems that empower them to do this?
Science must be held responsible for the empowerment of psychopaths whose violent use of technology and scientific insights is completely predictable and a matter of historic record.
what does any of that have to do with this fucking building, stop getting lost in your own arguments
This building blowing up was possible because of scientists. It isn’t hard to understand.
This building blowing up was possible because of humans. It isn’t hard to understand.
This building blowing up was possible because of doctors. It isn’t hard to understand.
This building blowing up was possible because of medicine. It isn’t hard to understand.
This building blowing up was possible because of people caring for their kin. It isn’t hard to understand.
This building blowing up was possible because of miners. It isn’t hard to understand.
This building blowing up was possible because of construction workers. It isn’t hard to understand.
This building blowing up was possible because of architects. It isn’t hard to understand.
…and so forth.
Reaching so far to blame other people and defend those actually killing others is as brain dead as they come. So I posted this comment to also join in the group of people observing and stating how brain dead you are.
Hi Ted! Didn’t know they let you have the net in there!
