Strawberries are not berries (but aggregate accessory fruits). Cucumber, watermelon and pumpkin belong to the same family of plants. Tomatoes are fruit. Well botanically, vegetables do not exist anyway. Vegetables are a social construct. Also, wheat is a kind of grass. Isn’t our world beautiful?
That wheat is a grass is even easier to understand than corn also is one. And don’t forget bamboo, which can even grow into huge “trees” forming large bamboo forests!
Eating eggs -> financially supporting a system where male chicks get either immediately killed after birth or more rarely are later killed for their meat. Also it is supporting a system where chickens are bred to produce as many eggs as fast as possible, which means a life of torture to them
Drinking milk -> financially supporting a system where cows are continuously impregnated against their will and where their offspring is immediately taken from them and killed for their meat (I think this is done yearly). Also it is supporting a system where cows are bred to produce as much milk as fast as possible, which means a life of torture to them
There are certainly many more atrocities happening, but I’m trying not to think too often of that stuff
Also just supporting bad agriculture in general, since pesticides kill crazy amounts of stuff, deforestation, giant monoculture fields suffocating native wildlife, producing the fertilizers unethically, transporting stuff half across the world needlessly… if you do anything the “optimize profits” -way things get shitty. All of these things apply to plant based diets as well, but vegans often focus on the whole chain of ethical and ecological problems whereas vegetarians tend to focus more to the personal level of things. So even what plant products they buy and consume might have some big differences in ecological impact and ethical concerns
Hm, I think there is a clearer ethical distinction between vegetarians and vegans. But this doesn’t necessarily translate towards the participation in our capitalist system.
For example, I’m a long-time vegan but due to my financially very limited resources I mostly buy cheap conventional food, even vegan meat substitutes from actual meat companies (they are way cheaper). In contrast, a friend of mine is living vegetarian, but she works on an organic farm. So she works towards a more sustainable agriculture while also consuming nearly only organic products.
Oh for sure, I made a very broad generalization there, to simplify the point. Just someone trying to live ethically and using only local products, but eating meat (hunted, organic, etc. locally small scale, animal suffering minimized and all that) could very well have a lesser ecological impact than someone being vegan but relying on imported soy etc.
In my experience vegans are just the most likely to even think about this stuff since veganism usually goes further than just being about a diet, but that doesn’t mean all vegans do, or that a lot of non-vegans don’t.
And having the possibility to choose options based only on ethics and sustainability of course is a privilege a lot of people just don’t have
I would guess by eating dairy, eggs, leather, etc. I heard this take just yesterday, and I can see a point, because most animal industries don’t treat animals well even when it’s not about killing the animal
leather is mainly a waste product, no one actually kills animals for their skins (except animals that are valuable to humans only for their skin but those are the exception and in many places is even an illegal practice), so idk if i would count the use of leather :shrug:
Strawberries are not berries (but aggregate accessory fruits). Cucumber, watermelon and pumpkin belong to the same family of plants. Tomatoes are fruit. Well botanically, vegetables do not exist anyway. Vegetables are a social construct. Also, wheat is a kind of grass. Isn’t our world beautiful?
That wheat is a grass is even easier to understand than corn also is one. And don’t forget bamboo, which can even grow into huge “trees” forming large bamboo forests!
How can vegetarians be real if our vegetables aren’t real?
Vegetarians aren’t real anyways because they still support mass murder of animals! (partly /s)
Just curious, how are they doing that?
Eating eggs -> financially supporting a system where male chicks get either immediately killed after birth or more rarely are later killed for their meat. Also it is supporting a system where chickens are bred to produce as many eggs as fast as possible, which means a life of torture to them
Drinking milk -> financially supporting a system where cows are continuously impregnated against their will and where their offspring is immediately taken from them and killed for their meat (I think this is done yearly). Also it is supporting a system where cows are bred to produce as much milk as fast as possible, which means a life of torture to them
There are certainly many more atrocities happening, but I’m trying not to think too often of that stuff
Also just supporting bad agriculture in general, since pesticides kill crazy amounts of stuff, deforestation, giant monoculture fields suffocating native wildlife, producing the fertilizers unethically, transporting stuff half across the world needlessly… if you do anything the “optimize profits” -way things get shitty. All of these things apply to plant based diets as well, but vegans often focus on the whole chain of ethical and ecological problems whereas vegetarians tend to focus more to the personal level of things. So even what plant products they buy and consume might have some big differences in ecological impact and ethical concerns
Hm, I think there is a clearer ethical distinction between vegetarians and vegans. But this doesn’t necessarily translate towards the participation in our capitalist system.
For example, I’m a long-time vegan but due to my financially very limited resources I mostly buy cheap conventional food, even vegan meat substitutes from actual meat companies (they are way cheaper). In contrast, a friend of mine is living vegetarian, but she works on an organic farm. So she works towards a more sustainable agriculture while also consuming nearly only organic products.
Oh for sure, I made a very broad generalization there, to simplify the point. Just someone trying to live ethically and using only local products, but eating meat (hunted, organic, etc. locally small scale, animal suffering minimized and all that) could very well have a lesser ecological impact than someone being vegan but relying on imported soy etc. In my experience vegans are just the most likely to even think about this stuff since veganism usually goes further than just being about a diet, but that doesn’t mean all vegans do, or that a lot of non-vegans don’t.
And having the possibility to choose options based only on ethics and sustainability of course is a privilege a lot of people just don’t have
I would guess by eating dairy, eggs, leather, etc. I heard this take just yesterday, and I can see a point, because most animal industries don’t treat animals well even when it’s not about killing the animal
leather is mainly a waste product, no one actually kills animals for their skins (except animals that are valuable to humans only for their skin but those are the exception and in many places is even an illegal practice), so idk if i would count the use of leather :shrug:
Now you’re asking the questions they don’t want you to ask
It is beautiful, but you made it sound like Mexican food. It’s all the same you can just do it differently and call it something else.
I get the idea planetologists got high of their own supply. What the fuck is up with all that?
The most sensical classification of species. Tracking shared traits and now shared DNA to group species by how recently they share an ancestor.