does getting brutalized by cops make a difference? does that stop the bombs dropping? maybe it feels brave, but how does that feeling educate the working class? how does your government mandated beating raise class consciousness in the imperial core?
these are networking and educational events, having cops there beating people makes it way harder to have productive political conversations.
Like yes, we have to fight them, but we also need to obtain political legitimacy in order to displace blue fascists as the “face of the left” so we can use real power to do something about the atrocities that are being committed in our name.
Without legitimate power we can’t defund the police, we can’t divest from Israel, we can’t house people, &c. and we sure as hell can’t stop the bombs from dropping. The burgussy will obviously do everything they can to stop us from ever gaining that kind of power, but by struggling for it we legitimize our position and demonstrate why revolution is necessary to achieve even modest goals like “not doing genocide.”
Yeah I saw mention in another thread of a group of protestors breaking down the door of a police station (or similar?) and terminally onlines criticising them for not entering the building.
But to what end? A tiny isolated outbreak of violence without legitimacy or even a coherent goal or shared understanding between the participants is a recipe for pointless disaster.
I’m surprised they went as far as kicking down a door and that is honestly “enough” natural escalation in that moment. We’re so impatient that we’d rather see our comrades hurl themselves off a cliff so we can see them “do something.” It’s pathetic.
OK what about talking to people about history and connecting them to the long history of socialist struggle in America? The working class is starting to see the issues with empire, now is a great time to help people understand what is going on so we can do something about it!
The left in America is useless, they won’t even commit random acts of terror. Nothing is going to change if we don’t go and harass people until the police come in and arrest us for freedom.
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does getting brutalized by cops make a difference? does that stop the bombs dropping? maybe it feels brave, but how does that feeling educate the working class? how does your government mandated beating raise class consciousness in the imperial core?
these are networking and educational events, having cops there beating people makes it way harder to have productive political conversations.
Like yes, we have to fight them, but we also need to obtain political legitimacy in order to displace blue fascists as the “face of the left” so we can use real power to do something about the atrocities that are being committed in our name.
Without legitimate power we can’t defund the police, we can’t divest from Israel, we can’t house people, &c. and we sure as hell can’t stop the bombs from dropping. The burgussy will obviously do everything they can to stop us from ever gaining that kind of power, but by struggling for it we legitimize our position and demonstrate why revolution is necessary to achieve even modest goals like “not doing genocide.”
Yeah I saw mention in another thread of a group of protestors breaking down the door of a police station (or similar?) and terminally onlines criticising them for not entering the building.
But to what end? A tiny isolated outbreak of violence without legitimacy or even a coherent goal or shared understanding between the participants is a recipe for pointless disaster.
I’m surprised they went as far as kicking down a door and that is honestly “enough” natural escalation in that moment. We’re so impatient that we’d rather see our comrades hurl themselves off a cliff so we can see them “do something.” It’s pathetic.
Instant gratification brain
OK what about talking to people about history and connecting them to the long history of socialist struggle in America? The working class is starting to see the issues with empire, now is a great time to help people understand what is going on so we can do something about it!
Yeah ok white boy go get arrested