• FettermansFinalStroke@hexbear.net
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    5 days ago

    People on this website are so fucking negative. Nothing is going to happen until 8 PM so go outside, touch grass, and stop stewing in negativity. Think about how we, as the very small organized left can best counter this. No, ANSWER and PSL are not a psyop. No, protesting tomorrow is not a waste of time — we need to build the anti war movement in the US. Yes, Americans are brain dead and initial protests against the war against Iran fizzled out. Yes, as revolutionaries, as cadre, as leftists we need to meet people where they are and shove them left. Grow the fuck up and take action. You people are the reason that high school students are leading the leftist movement in many cities, bitterness, doomerism and perfectionism gets us nowhere. Go outside and organize, I don’t care how, I don’t care if it’s with the national call to action but do anything other than splitscreening Telegram and Hexbear for hours at a time

    • darkcalling [comrade/them, she/her]@hexbear.net
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      Realistically no amount of protests or even outright violent riots that pop up on short notice in response to a tweet are likely to dissuade Trump’s course of action in the short time remaining. He’s living in an info bubble for one so most likely he’d just see limited amount of violence on Fox called “Iranian agents cause chaos in last ditch attempt to stop Trump” without understanding anything of the scale or breadth of it. For another short notice protests are smaller than bigger ones. An emergency protest attended by all American cadres and a handful of liberals will do even less of a nothing than a big set-up protest that has time to gather a greater participation rate. Feeling good about yourself by setting up an immediate protest is not important. It’s not that Trump will see it and reconsider, that won’t happen, so it’s about materially getting as many people together as you can on a short notice and unfortunately Trump was not kind enough to tell us he’d do this days ago so he and the empire have the element of timing on their side.

      So no matter what we were looking at a post-event protest which is bad but let’s be honest Americans are a lost cause who care mainly about themselves and if Trump were to nuke Iran and gas prices dropped in two weeks most Americans would shrug indifferently, say they disagree with the methods but like the result and life would continue on in the empire. Fact is Americans should have been mobilizing en mass since the start of the war on Iran but they haven’t. Trump lives in an info bubble and doesn’t know, doesn’t care anything not fed to him by his advisors and sees things only through that lens. Nixon at least saw the protestors and knew what they were upset about and who they were (not foreign agents, not smuggled in commies but angry Americans), Trump doesn’t even know that, I think he really believes his advisors when they tell him they’re all paid undocumented immigrants sent by Soros and China.

  • nothx [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    5 days ago

    Psyop ass website

    EDIT: Didn’t realize the associations involved when I hip fired this comment off. Thanks for checking me on my cynicism posting. <3