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    That’s basically google’s main business. Their business is not in web search, video platform, mobile OS, email or AI, it’s ad. People forget Google is an ad company, that uses any tool available to give you ad. If it’s free and not open source, you are the product. Either to sell your attention and availability to companies through ads, or to use your data to do profiling, build a more vicious ad platform and sell your data on the side.

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    Kinda makes sense tho. Either they earn money on you from ads or they make money from you because of subscription. Or you’re like me and you still block the ads even though YouTube does everything it can to stop you.

    I wouldn’t really mind watching some ads before a video, but I don’t wanna get constantly interrupted or have the ads track me everywhere. I tend to watch the in-video ads from creators tho, because most people I follow have relevant ads, funny ads, or ar the very least deserve some revenue.

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    Some of us pay ourselves to install an ad blocker and then we keep our money and we don’t get any ads.

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      I do. YouTube premium is cheap, i can add 5 other other people to my plan and they all the benefits, i get ad free music in my car (i cancelled XMradio because YouTube is better) and all my devices like my phone, car, smart tv, computer get ad free shows.

      It’s a way better service than netflix because Netflix didn’t let be add people outside my house. And it’s way better than Amazon prime, because that chat extra flfor ad free but you still get ads!

      I’ll support any company that gives me a cheap ad free plan that i can share with the family outside my house with no issues.

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        Yeah, not having ads in the phone app, the TV app, the music app on the phone or in the browser is really nice, I love it. Also got that for all my friends and family.

        Never paid YouTube a dime though :)

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          how can I do it on the tv app? I have a Google tv and and a mibox and I absolutely hate watching youtube on those bc the fucking ads are over a minute long sometimes.

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            There’s an app for Google/Android tv called smart tube next. It’s pretty easy to install and works wonders. It’s made me use YouTube in my tv a lot more since I installed it.

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        Exactly. I will pay for things that I want. If you do not sell them to me I will get them some other way or satisfy myself with other things.

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        Pihole does not stop youtube ads as they are served through youtube’s domains. You need ublock or something like that.

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          Forreal I use pihole and I get ads. Is bro on something we don’t know about? Why say anything about pihole if you literally have never used it lol

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          Having everything connected to the router automatically get ad blocking is great.

          I do wish the pihole was easier to use. I don’t think my parents would be up for manually updating it via SSH in a console.

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            You can access the web client from any connected machine and do it from there.

            Also you can save the IP from the machine running it as a local DNS entry, something like pi.hole, so they can just type pi.hole/admin in the browser to access the dashboard

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        Stupid question, but does pihole offer any substantial benefit over using a remote ad-blocking DNS like AdGuard or whatever?

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          Please ignore the other two commenters…

          Adblockers block ads at the user level, meaning you have to manage the adblocker for each device in your ecosystem.

          PiHole and similar DNS based ad blocking technologies OTOH block ads at the network level and only needs one install location to manage content for all devices you have on your network.

          This means with PiHole you can have one set of custom rules that block all ads at the network level by using a set of pre-loaded and customizeable DNS blocklists. OR! you can install Ublock on 2 devices in your house and let the other 7 devices that have no access to adblockers (like IoT devices) be subject to the atrocity that is modern advertising.

          Additionally, adblockers in browsers can eventually be shut off. See: Google Chrome and Ublock Origin.

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            But what does a pihole (which is DNS blocking) do that AdGuard’s free public DNS (which is DNS blocking) doesn’t? Of course uBlock Origin alongside them is better, but what’s a pihole specifically doing?

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              I was pretty specific as to what advantages PiHole has over Ublock alone.

              Please re-read the above comment and lmk if I can clarify anything.

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            Yes but there are public DNS servers that block blacklisted domains. I can set that as DNS in my router settings and it works the same as using pihole as a blacklisting DNS server, right?

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          It’s a good way to dip your toes into learning about Linux, self-hosting, and administering reliable services.

          Functionally they are the same though.

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    “Perpetrators offer a service that will not be put into effect, or offer a service that solves a problem that would not exist without the racket.”

    The very definition of racketeering.

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    Every single youtube channel needs to start seeding torrents of their videos, and posting those links to other platforms (here, mastodon, etc).

    Youtube / google could be defeated collectively if creators were to consistently do this, and interested people had the ability to help seed videos.

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        Most of the channels I know ask for donations via patreon or other funding platforms. I don’t think youtube pays much except for maybe the top 1% of slop channels.

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          A lot more people make money than the top 1%. The top 1% make big money, but many more may not make a fortune, but it’s a legit side hustle for them. Get into the right niche, and you can do VERY well.

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        In most cases, not all that much. YouTube is mainly useful for getting views and building an audience. It’s a combination of revenue sources like sponsors, merchandise, donations, etc., that really make it worthwhile for creators.

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        I go to my son’s house, and start browsing through his streamers, and he’s got all kinds of stuff I never see. They keep me boxed into the algorithm they’ve assigned to me, and wont let me see anything else, so I keep picking from their choices for me, which only locks me harder into their box.

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          WDYM by “browsing through”? As in, you get different search results? Or a different start page with suggested videos?

          Maybe I’m weird, but I never use that. Either I have a specific need (an instruction video, a specific song or video episode). Then I use the search. Or I want to see what’s new. Then I check the channels of creators I like.

          If you use the platform like that (which is basically like Lemmy), it’s a lot harder to algorithmically lock you in. (I only use third-party clients like FreeTube and Newpipe though, which block most types of tracking and don’t require a Google account).

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            I mean the platforms suggestions for what their algorithm thinks you’ll like. My son’s suggestions look a lot different from mine. I’d like to see some of those kinds of suggestions on mine (mostly classic films), but I get lots of junk, so I end up watching junk, so it recommends more junk.

            I want to get off this treadmill, and in to a different one.

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          I’ve tried to escape several times with no luck. I’ve deleted my entire history, views, comments, unsubscribed from channels, you name it. Within a day it looks like I never left.

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            Which browser and adlocker are you using?

            I’m not seeing this at on Firefox w ublock origin

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      I mean peer tube and similar exist. I think the majority of channels with over a 25k views, I don’t think there’s a consistant number anyone gets, but something like 100 bucks per 25k views or so is pretty common.

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        Peer tube uses webtorrents, which for many reasons haven’t caught on. It’s still mainly centralized nodes with massive hosting costs. Torrents are the fully decentralized answer.