I never understood authoritarian leftist policies until recently. Now, I definitely still have my criticism of their implementations and conditions. But, man, the actual purpose of them make a lot of sense.
Like, what are we supposed to do when a massive part of the population is currently cheering on “bombed them to the stone age” and “destroy their entire civilization”.
Like, we gotta do something about that at some point. We just let absolute genocidal freaks poison our society forever? At some point you gotta do some reeducation. I’m open to other ideas on what to do. But I definitely understand the purpose better now.
Seems like someone like you might not fit the criteria. Maybe you are just enrolled in some weekend classes or something.
That’s the problem with these structures once they are created you hand them over to anyone who is able to use them.
I understand why these policies were implemented, in any serious communist government that wants to stay communist, but if the wrong people from inside or outside get to it, many people will suffer.
NB: I’m an anarchist, so I support Marxist revolutions and then get killed by said revolutions …
Sorry, I thought it was obvious I was talking about a post revolution society. Basically, the Parenti line of “After the revolution the liberals always ask ‘Will there be freedom for the fascist?! Can they have their newspapers!?’”
I understand the authoritarian leftist policies that are needed in that stage of development.
It’s so weird people say this when historically leftist states do actually end authoritarian policies. Like, the gulags were literally closed. Not to mention countless examples of China ending once needed and now no longer needed policies.
I think Anarchist live in a fantasy world sometimes and just like saying “the state never gives up power”. It’s like you guys try to apply the same theory to a bourgeoise run state and a proletariat run state under a communist party. History literally shows you they are massively different.
Can you maybe offer constructive criticism on how to improve them instead of just blindly acting like state power is some universal evil. After awhile it really just starts to sound like religious dogma. Like the state is some underworld character that you have to defeat.
Thank you for that input Adolf. Tell us more about how much you hate all the subhumans who don’t subscribe to your liberal fairytale interpretation of reality.
Yes Adolf we get it you think we’re all subhuman, that our experiences and views are entirely irrelevant and we just don’t know better and you the liberal Ubermensch know what’s best for us, to civilise us savages to your so amazing ways.
No you’re doing double genocide theory (a form of holocaust denial). Also concentration camps weren’t just Jews, it was the disabled, Roma, people of colour communists and more. You really should do some research before being so arrogant while so astoundingly wrong and peddling neonazi propaganda.
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I never understood authoritarian leftist policies until recently. Now, I definitely still have my criticism of their implementations and conditions. But, man, the actual purpose of them make a lot of sense.
Like, what are we supposed to do when a massive part of the population is currently cheering on “bombed them to the stone age” and “destroy their entire civilization”.
Like, we gotta do something about that at some point. We just let absolute genocidal freaks poison our society forever? At some point you gotta do some reeducation. I’m open to other ideas on what to do. But I definitely understand the purpose better now.
Seems like someone like you might not fit the criteria. Maybe you are just enrolled in some weekend classes or something.
That’s the problem with these structures once they are created you hand them over to anyone who is able to use them.
I understand why these policies were implemented, in any serious communist government that wants to stay communist, but if the wrong people from inside or outside get to it, many people will suffer.
NB: I’m an anarchist, so I support Marxist revolutions and then get killed by said revolutions …
This implies that you got killed more than once. How did you survive that?
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You are right! I have been defeated by reason and logic.
Ugh, that’s the worst! My condolences
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Sorry, I thought it was obvious I was talking about a post revolution society. Basically, the Parenti line of “After the revolution the liberals always ask ‘Will there be freedom for the fascist?! Can they have their newspapers!?’”
I understand the authoritarian leftist policies that are needed in that stage of development.
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It’s so weird people say this when historically leftist states do actually end authoritarian policies. Like, the gulags were literally closed. Not to mention countless examples of China ending once needed and now no longer needed policies.
I think Anarchist live in a fantasy world sometimes and just like saying “the state never gives up power”. It’s like you guys try to apply the same theory to a bourgeoise run state and a proletariat run state under a communist party. History literally shows you they are massively different.
Can you maybe offer constructive criticism on how to improve them instead of just blindly acting like state power is some universal evil. After awhile it really just starts to sound like religious dogma. Like the state is some underworld character that you have to defeat.
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You really don’t understand China lmao
But they have cameras! Cameras!
I’ll do us both a favor and not waste my time trying to respond to your stupidity.
people like you are the reason gulags will be necessary
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Thank you for that input Adolf. Tell us more about how much you hate all the subhumans who don’t subscribe to your liberal fairytale interpretation of reality.
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Yes Adolf we get it you think we’re all subhuman, that our experiences and views are entirely irrelevant and we just don’t know better and you the liberal Ubermensch know what’s best for us, to civilise us savages to your so amazing ways.
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Pre-scratched nazi? No wiggling, no denying, no trolley problem, super fragile? Higher diesel prices -> instant total war?
Yeah racism and superiority complex is a sure sign of a civilized liberal society…
not helping your case there by immediately exposing yourself as a racist 🤣
“civilized.” Tell me, is the government supported genocide of Palestine, Cuba, Iran “civilized?”
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Gulag inmates were paid a wage on a scale mirrored from the civilian sector and received monetary bonuses and sentence reduction for good work.
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This is pretty basic common knowledge? Soviet inmates all received compensation for their work even their nazi pows
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https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/soc/economics/staff/mharrison/archive/noticeboard/bergson/borodkin-ertz.pdf
No you’re doing double genocide theory (a form of holocaust denial). Also concentration camps weren’t just Jews, it was the disabled, Roma, people of colour communists and more. You really should do some research before being so arrogant while so astoundingly wrong and peddling neonazi propaganda.
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You aren’t just wrong but also missing the point entirely