• 8oow3291d@feddit.dk
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    On Wikipedia, a page titled “infamous liberals” would have a definition and link to the “liberal” page. This page doesn’t, which immediately gives the impression that the definition is “people I don’t like”. But I looked it up: https://www.conservapedia.com/Liberal

    A liberal (alternately called a left-winger or leftist) in America is someone who advocates an increase in government spending, power, and control, typically through taxpayer-funded programs such as Welfare, failed public schools, ObamaCare and support for wasteful foreign aid. Liberals often support the censorship and the denial of Christian values[1] and conservative viewpoints.

    Trump has proposed a $1.5 trillion military budget, so just government spending obviously doesn’t make someone a liberal. “Liberals often support” is something they claim liberals do, seemingly not something that makes a person a liberal.

    So the claim seems to boil down to government control over the population being what makes someone a liberal. But surely the most government control-freaky in the US are the people behind ICE? And which party is it that wants to micro-manage control over women’s bodies? Which party has elements which want to forbid interracial marriage? Which party is it that want to forbid no-fault diverse? Which party is it that loves the war on drugs, largely even marihuana?

    I also like how liberals support “failed public schools” and “wasteful foreign aid”. So if I support non-failed public schools and non-wasteful foreign aid, then I am not a liberal?

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      It doesn’t actually make sense as an ideology or even a coherent set of values. It’s a cargo cult of ideology, faking the shape of a coherent ideology. Instead of starting with a set of values and ideals, then building a set of beliefs of how things should be, they’re picking and choosing values and ideals when it is convenient for justifying what they already want to do.

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        6 days ago

        I feel like labels like “liberal”, “conservative”, “socialist”, “right wing”, “centrist”, and “left wing” are largely meaningless, as used in the US today.